Radar Detectors <merged Topic>

[XtRmn8]

For anyone interested in an Bel RX65 I have a contact for someone who can get them for $500, does not have to be a group buy!

This person is located in Perth, so the $500 is for WA people and might be a bit more for other states.

The units are brand new in the original box, they will come in a "titanium" finish case, a smart cigerette plug and a suction cap window mount and user guide, exactly the same as you can buy here in Perth for $700-$800 (depending on which store you go to).

If you are interested send me a PM and I will send you the contact details.

Cheers

[saleen]

This site has alot of good information.

http://www.radar.co.nz/aust/intro.html

[Romulus]

I'll testify that both the Bel RX65 and RX75 are great units. The RX75 is a remote mounted unit that I've fitted to the T, and I use the RX65 in the different work cars I drive.

The RX75 has great range, and has never missed a laser trap. When funds permit I'll be adding the BEL-904 laser jammer to it. It's also a good unit as it's very concealed making it hard to find in the car.

The RX75 cost me $1300 and the RX65 cost me $550, both brand new units.

[Milz]

ye im interested in getting 1

[Adrian6T]

For anyone interested in an Bel RX65 I have a contact for someone who can get them for $500, does not have to be a group buy!

This person is located in Perth, so the $500 is for WA people and might be a bit more for other states.

The units are brand new in the original box, they will come in a "titanium" finish case, a smart cigerette plug and a suction cap window mount and user guide, exactly the same as you can buy here in Perth for $700-$800 (depending on which store you go to).

If you are interested send me a PM and I will send you the contact details.

Cheers

Is it the Pro unit

[Russ F6]

I am keen on getting one!

[Power]

I dont want to encourage you guys to go any faster and I am not sure if this is a good deal but from my shopping around I think it is!!! If not let me know.

I can organise some Bel Radar Dectors RX65 the Pro units here are the specs

http://www.beltronicspro.com/rx65.html

If I can organise 10 people I can get them for $550 PP (Unless your in Perth) so I was thinking $555 and 5 bucks to be donated to the forum.

Not sure about the law around AUS but we are allowed them in WA.

Anyone know how much it would cost to ship? If it would fit in an express post bag that's like 10 bucks max!

Not sure if this post is in the correct area.. was gonna put it in "The Market" but only looking at interest at the moment.

So let me know if anyone is keen and see if we can get some dectors for everyone.. If I get more than 10 I might be able to get it even cheaper. So ask your mates 

I may be interested so put me on your tentative list just for now. I gather you intend importing them from the USA, and on-sell at AUD with shipping costs and profit, to sell at rate mentioned - OK by me.

Sorry for all the O/T info but it is very related by way of laws outside W.A.

I'm going to have some hard-core factual information from the NSW Highway Patrol in regards to, simply "what do they actually do with detector-detectors, are they using them succesfully, how many busts via this technology alone, etc." I think this will be of value to all, none the least the original poster!

[mickq]

I'll testify that both the Bel RX65 and RX75 are great units. The RX75 is a remote mounted unit that I've fitted to the T, and I use the RX65 in the different work cars I drive.

The RX75 has great range, and has never missed a laser trap. When funds permit I'll be adding the BEL-904 laser jammer to it. It's also a good unit as it's very concealed making it hard to find in the car.

The RX75 cost me $1300 and the RX65 cost me $550, both brand new units.

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If what I know is right, proper real Laser jammers wont be easy to hide. They rely on line of sight, so part of them must be visible from all angles of the car.

The way they usually work is to detect the laser (scattered or direct) and then send back fake reflections. The reflections alternate between about 5kmh and 300kmh+ rapidly. As a LIDAR requires 4 equal readings in a row in order to display the speed on the unit the cop is holding, it cant lock on and rather than risk being wrong will not display a speed. The cop will either see nothing, or an error message. (Both of which are indicators to him you have a jammer! They arent dumb...well some of them...ok MAYBE some of them...).

BUT, Laser is light. Light travels in straight lines. Thus the laser jammer must be within line of sight to work as it is effectively shining an invisible light back at the lidar unit the cop is holding. It cant do that from under your dash which is why they usually are placed on the dashboard. Even then they can not work as the cops radar gun may be obscured by the cars pillars etc so whilst it may detect the laser the fake return jammer signal may not work.

How do you find the laser detecor works in real life? It uses technology developed for the military to detect laser guidance systems and either detects the laser aimed at you (by then its usually too late to slow down though), or more normally the backscatter that occurs when the laser hits another car somewhere (often kilometers) ahead of you. Kind of like spraying a stram from a hose at your car...the spray bouncing off is what they detect. Have you found in real life it does a good job when a cop is somewhere lighting up someone else's car? Ive heard 5k detection range is possible and that was 2 years ago.

Wont help if the cop is smart and the roads quiet...they will only light you up when they see you, and it takes less time to detect your speed than it does for you to slow down, so you have to count on them lighting up someone else ahead of you to let you know they are near by.

Must say I am tempted to get a detector.

Edited 16/06/05 02:01 PM by mickq

[velociTy]

Harvey Norman has them advertised at the moment over here

[F6_Tornado]

BUT, Laser is light. Light travels in straight lines. Thus the laser jammer must be within line of sight to work as it is effectively shining an invisible light back at the lidar unit the cop is holding. It cant do that from under your dash which is why they usually are placed on the dashboard. Even then they can not work as the cops radar gun may be obscured by the cars pillars etc so whilst it may detect the laser the fake return jammer signal may not work.

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Jammer>>>Dashboard??

The detectors in question here are not Jammers and only detect Laser if the detector is close enough to the point at which the laser is directed I.e. The number plate at which point the dash mounted laser detector in question would not even show a reading.

An example of this is say a STD K band radar used by mobile police will spread say some 85 feet at a distance of 300 feet whereas a laser will only spread 10.8 inches from 300feet.

So a dash mounted Laser Jammer or laser detector is nothing more than an ornament.

The laser relies on a reflective surface to work efficiently and as such the ideal surface is the number plate and the first point the officer will target but in effect during the day he can target your headlights. The bonnet windscreen etc is not targeted as they will not return a reading.

So in short you can have your dash mounted RX65 Bell detector and be pulled over and booked without the detector even sounding a warning!!!!!

In USA they now use a product called Veil and paint it on the number plate cover and the headlights and would seem quite effective until close range when it punched through the veil., but from a distance quite effective.

Here is a calculator for laser beam spread just for people’s interest.

laserwidth.zip