Rules For Cruises And Events

[Phantomxr6]

The police officer, right or wrong, had a negative view of the cruise because he alleged that the first group of cars was travelling at 134km/h. If we had all been travelling together though, he might have pulled us over for obstructing traffic, driving too slow etc, I have seen it before.

In fairness to the officer involved he did clock 5 of the 6 lead cars at 134km/h.His main concern was public safety.He said the average speed he had been seeing at that time of day was 122km/h.He also said that we should enjoy our cruise and drive within the flow of traffic,we have nice fast cars but do the right thing.

[KEN 24T]

I've had a little time to think about this and also to monitor other's reactions to this subject and although most people are sensible and reasonable about it, I still get the feeling that we're all just flapping our gums.

So here's what I'm thinking.

As much as I truely love going on cruises, I will no longer attend any cruise that isn't structured and regulated in a "formal" way. We have been very lucky so far and I just couldn't bear to be part of any incident that results in injury or worse ... time to take responsibility for our actions.

Sorry, don't mean it to sound like an ultimatum.

[aniken]

As much as I truely love going on cruises, I will no longer attend any cruise that isn't structured and regulated in a "formal" way.

That would be a shame.

So, what exactly would you want to see (ie. if 'x','y' or 'z' isn't in place, I'm not going)? Put your suggestions up for discussion...

[KEN 24T]

As much as I truely love going on cruises, I will no longer attend any cruise that isn't structured and regulated in a "formal" way.

That would be a shame.

So, what exactly would you want to see (ie. if 'x','y' or 'z' isn't in place, I'm not going)? Put your suggestions up for discussion...

I'm no "legal eagle" but there must be a way to enforce a set of guidelines covering such things as speed, overtaking, travelling distance, CB communications, public behaviour, etc.

I'm not the one to write it up, sorry. I guess what I'm really looking for is a balance between the "culture" of a cruise and the "safety" of a cruise.

For example, I think there should be a published, known penality for reckless driving (as reported by anyone on the cruise), that would come into effect immediately after the cruise, e.g., banned from a number of future cruises.

The last thing I want is to have "over-regulation", we're all adults after all. I just want an assurance that any cruise won't be ruined by some individual childish behaviour.

[Honest Gaza]

What do people think about signing an indemnity sheet before a cruise starts? No-one really answered last time I asked...

Andrew

It will just strengthen what is said by the organiser before any cruise. This time in writing which is a good idea.

Andrew...while your reasoning is understandable, I don't think that signing an indemnity is necessary. I also doubt that it would make any difference legally whether or not someone had signed the form prior to the cruise.

PIER PRESSURE. That's what it is all about. We get caught up in the hype and we do things that we wouldn't normally do. This would occur regardless of any signatures obtained before the event.

However, just as PIER PRESSURE can cause the problem....so too can it resolve the problem. Perhaps a simple "Pull your head in" over the CB may suffice.

While I do agree that penalties may be applicable in extreme cases, I would hope that some simpler methods could be enacted.

I find it sad that after all of the positive comments given after the weekend cruise, the feedback has now taken a sharp turn in the opposite direction. I will choose to remember it for what it was. A great experience, a place where I made new friendships and in general, something I was proud to be a part of.

I hope we can take a step back, learn from mistakes that may have been made....and look forward to the next one.

Honest Gaza

[Guest cul08r]

Gaza,

I don't think that anyone is complaining too much about the cruise to the Snowys. I think you will find that people are inserting comments about experiences from other cruises or events they have been part of. Like I said before, I think the weekend went well, and there was no real need to have any dicipline in place.

It was lucky that the policeman was kind and offered a warning. there was one WRX cruise that I went on to Goulburn last year where a member was pulled over for overtaking the rest of the convoy and about 10 other cars were asked to stop too. The officer got all excited and talked anout lane hogging, road blocking, speeding etc, but the only thing that was illegal was that 1 person had sped. Once confronted with some common sense, the person was issued a warning and they learnt their lesson.

It's important to come to a concensus on this subject, and you have a lot of merit in your comments above.

Andrew

[Guest cul08r]

How’s this for a start for a formal document guys?

Suggestions:

1 Purchase and install a 40 channel UHF radio, min. 2 watts

General Rules for Cruises and Events.

A All State and Federal road rules must be adhered to at all times, including:

1 Adhering to all posted speed limits :o

2 Obeying all relevant traffic signals

3 Not performing u-turns illegally

4 Use indicators at all times where applicable

B Driving in a manner that is respectful of other road users, including:

1 Keeping left on dual lane carriageways unless overtaking

2 Not blocking driveways and entrances to rest stops unnecessarily

3 Thoughtful use of parking in rest stops

4 Moving completely onto the verge of the road if pulling over

C Thoughtfulness for the rest of the group, including:

The Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

1 Providing notice of unexpected stops and your intentions

2 Making sure the person following you in a convoy follows the route, knows where to turn

3 Providing assistance to those in need

4 Following all emergency instructions given by the Trip leader

5 No swearing on the UHF. They are, after all, free public broadcasts and these are family events :o

Penalties

I would suggest that penalties be applied by the moderating team after an event, unless a serious offence is committed. For serious offences, such as endangering other people or excessive speeding, perhaps an instant removal from the even, decided by a team of say 3 key attendees. This is of course just a guide. For lesser problems, I am sure that we can all be mature and have the courage to speak up when we see a problem occuring.

thoughts?

Andrew

[KEN 24T]

Andrew,

First, let me say that I'm impressed that someone is actually doing something towards this. Onya.

Second, I don't see anything wrong with the suggestions you've made. The question is, how do we set this up so that all cruisers adhere to the guidelines and that they are not just simply forgotten after a few cruises?

Good start.

[Guest cul08r]

Ken,

make it a mandatory sheet that is on the front of all cruise info handed out. Also, perhaps make it a sign in sheet that the Trip organiser gets back BEFORE the event starts...

In the end, you can only do so much. If people persist in acting like dooooofs, then there are penalties.

Andrew

[NYOPA]

Just for the record, I was in that lead pack of cars that the sarg got under the goulburn bridge.

I had my cruise control set to 120Km... no more.

none of us were doing 134 as he suggested.

I drive for a living, no licence no job for me, so I am acutely aware of the risks and drive accordingly.

Anyway I just wanted to set the record straight as I feel there is a huge difference between 9% over the speed limit and 22% over.

my 2 cents worth.