Zf Install

[xr6t_ute]

AU planeteries are stronger same with the pumps. valve body mods.billet servos, among some other little things too.

[Headsex]

that's right, planterys are still the main failure point.

We have seen intermediate shafts break. But that's due to a valve body modification another autoshop does. none of the ones Baywater autos has built has broken a intermediate shaft. If its mechanical, it will be planterys.

There are eariler ones whcih are better. as well as changing the front oil pump gear. Various valve body mods, as well as oiling hole modifications

[CCCC]

Firstly, Did your 4speed break mechanically, or did you just wear out the frictions. If it was the latter. there's not enough shift pressure.

To do a 6speed conversion is fairly full on, as per that post, you need all the looms, BF PCM, BF ABS module, just to sumerise a few of the changes.. Personally. if you want a 6 speed auto. buy a BF.. It will be cheaper :D

I've got both 4speed auto, and 6speed auto.. And well.. Honestly, They don't compare to each other. in saying that, I don't favour one over the other. They both have pro's and cons on where they work the best, and I guess that works well for me in both situations.

I've broken my 4 speed auto box a number of times in the past. But the major failure point has been breaking the planterys. Only the first time, did I loose 2nd/4th gear due to a cooked band. Currently running hell of a lot more power, and its handling fine.. But I've also learnt to tune it a hell of a lot better since those many years ago.

I pretty much just lost 3rd an 4th gear so I think iv jus worn out the frictions, I think I may jus go an just build my 4 speed, dominellos quated me 4 thousand dollars but that's me pulling the box out an installing it back in, im not to sure if that is a reasonable price, I see that people in melboure are getting tuff boxes an installed for 3000 dollars, but then again dominellos also said that il get 1 year waranty an a box that handles 500kw.Now heres the other thing I can get a bf 07 tyhpoon whole car minus engine an body parts but with every thing else gearbox,all the wiring,computer, dash, wiring harness etc everything to do this conversion for 2500 dollars that's were I just think that sould I just do it or not,

[lowfutura]

That link is all good but it was done a few years ago when 6 speeds were fairly new.

Surely someone has found an easy/cheaper way to do it, I'd love to trade up but love the car and dont want to lose cash and go more in debt.

I wish someone would find a way to convert easily as the only thing I dont like on my T is the 4 speed.

If some else has done it it would be great to hear from them, and see if they have come across any tips and tricks that would make this a viable conversion.

Try a smartlock bypass module from shiftkits.com.au

They will have the answers.

[400KwXr6t]

hmm a mod that another auto shop does, wouldnt be the same machine shop that machines the servo land off it so it doesn't have a seal anymore, so it shifts harder?

just wondering cos that's what my blown box had in it.

The rebuild box has a, dare I say it, Late model camira valve body in it. and ssangyo musso bands.

so far so good, shifts smoother now compared to machined servo, but still chirps gear changes so its firm.

500kw warrenty, that's a massive figure to give a warrenty. but if you can get it sweet. I'm guessing that's flywheel Kw.

[CCCC]

Try a smartlock bypass module from shiftkits.com.au

They will have the answers.

(shiftkits.com)I wonder if that after market transmission computer can control the zf. shiftkits.com sell some pretty good stuff.

[blobak]

I've got both 4speed auto, and 6speed auto.. And well.. Honestly, They don't compare to each other. in saying that, I don't favour one over the other. They both have pro's and cons on where they work the best, and I guess that works well for me in both situations.

Headsex, what do you say are the pros and cons of the ZF box?

[Headsex]

Headsex, what do you say are the pros and cons of the ZF box?

Pros... Nice wide ratio of gears to choose from.. Engine is always "in gear" so to speak.. The control system is also quite inteligent, Doing some "Mount Dandenong" type driving, the box learns your driving technique, and provided you can get it close to 200 points (max performance mode), it will do alot more downgearing(engine braking) as your braking as well. It feels real good too.

Cons... Don't shift has hard as I like it to under wot.. Feels like a very Flary shift in comparison to my 4speed auto, Which well, can chirp every single gear If I set it to. (maybe not 4th.. But you get my point).

So under high performance high power setups, constant abuse under full throttle, without the correct amount of torque reduction saving your box, the clutches will be fried VERY Quickly..