ravenhard Donating Members 1,517 Member For: 16y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Blacktown! Posted 13/01/10 10:29 AM Share Posted 13/01/10 10:29 AM So I have an aftermarket hotside piping. Blue silicon joiner coming from the bottom of the turbo to the actual piping. Since I have had it, I have probably blown it 8-9 times. I've heard it totally disintergate with a very loud "twang" to simple "phisht" loss to boost sound and clamps still sitting there on top of piping. Usually when I give it a boot. I keep a few spare clamps on hand now buts its getting annoying. It started off with a few cheapo titon clamps from supercheap, then I tried on 2 occasions using the T-bolt clamps that is on the rest of I/C piping but due to size and location, I dont think Im getting enough pressure on it to tighten it. Currently using JBS clamps and they give me a longer interval between breaks... but seriously it just happened tonight and am pissed off. Just getting ready to drive back to Sydney from Gold Coast tomorow morning and now have to get in and fix this out the front of the inlaws place in the dark....Does anybody else get this issue, whats clamps would give me the best performance, what is best technique to get it tight? Basically any help I can get would be good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP1D Member Donating Members 3,739 Member For: 18y 5m 16d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 13/01/10 11:49 AM Share Posted 13/01/10 11:49 AM It shouldnt blow off, the turbo outlet has its edge raised, as does the piping.I'd say theres some oil residue from the turbo in there that's worked it way in between the alloy and silicon joiner.Take it all off, degrease all the surfaces, totally clean & degrease the silicon joiner, and refit with a new clamp, and do up tight.One problem is that these turbo blow oil, and it will seep into the joins while the car sits, and with that join being closest to the turbo, and hanging straight down, its the first place the oil will sit.Just make sure all surfaces are free from grease... if its been popping off alot Id say it greasy inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHANTMXR6 It's not a MKI! Member 1,742 Member For: 16y 4m 17d Gender: Male Location: Earth Posted 13/01/10 12:41 PM Share Posted 13/01/10 12:41 PM Another cheap option is to smear some pushbike inner tube rubber glue on the silicon joiner.Not too much, just a smear. Leave it for a few minutes then tighten your clamps.Not much though, just a smear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike47 Donating Members 33 Member For: 15y 6m 11d Gender: Male Location: 2145 Posted 13/01/10 02:05 PM Share Posted 13/01/10 02:05 PM You could also use hairspray........that's right, hairspray. Spray a thin layer onto the troublesome section of piping then assemble as normal - tighten clamps. Wait about 20 - 30 mins for the hairspray to dry then drive.Should do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee Member 131 Member For: 15y 6m 21d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 14/01/10 08:15 AM Share Posted 14/01/10 08:15 AM If you cannot tighten the clamp enough use a s/s hose clamp and tighten with a ratchet.There maybe other reason why it's slipping off, it's your motor is twisting to much. With factory hot side piping it's made of rubber because it allows more movement. When you put after market hot side piping it's normally metal and it doesn't movement/flex. Try removing the clamp, that clamps the piping to the chassis or you can buy a silicon join with a humps to allows formovement/flex.When I change my hotside piping I allow for engine movement and I haven't had a probelm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenhard Donating Members 1,517 Member For: 16y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Blacktown! Posted 14/01/10 08:44 AM Author Share Posted 14/01/10 08:44 AM thanks for all the tips guys. Managed to get home from Gold Coast without anymore dramas. Im planning on redoing the whole hotside next weekend. Totally removing it and then refitting and tightening it all. When I installed it I did use some WD40 to get the pipes on the silicon joiners easier, but this maybe the issue so will degrease it all. Also planning on removing the underbattery CAI which is what is mainly blocking access to the bottom of the turbo. There is no clamp to hold the piping to the chassis BTW. Its floating with the only thing holding it is the bottom of the turbo and the end tank of the IC.As for the idea of innertube glue and hairspray I dont reckon will work. Ive had the turbo glowing bright red after spirited mountain runs and I dont reckon either of those things would survive at a guess 700degree temps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyb Donating Members 1,097 Member For: 16y 4m 22d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast, QLD Posted 14/01/10 08:54 AM Share Posted 14/01/10 08:54 AM I had this happen, and used a t-bolt clamp... the only thing was we managed to get it up on a hoist and get right in under it to do it up tight, I was practically swinging off it. Haven't had a problem since. (apart from blowing my motor, but that's an unrelated problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenhard Donating Members 1,517 Member For: 16y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Blacktown! Posted 14/01/10 10:01 AM Author Share Posted 14/01/10 10:01 AM Yep planning on using the t-bolt. I only used 2 normal hose clamps on the entire IC piping and they just so happen to be under the turbo on the hotside piping that is getting blownn off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP1D Member Donating Members 3,739 Member For: 18y 5m 16d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 14/01/10 10:58 AM Share Posted 14/01/10 10:58 AM Mate dont use wd40, its a lubricant, easy on, easy off lolClean it all up, degrease ect.The best thing to do is put some water on the pipes/hoses when fitting, they will be easy to slide around and adjust so you can get everything in the right position. The tighten all the clamps up... water dries and its a perfect join that wont burst off.Let me know if the joiner is no good and I'll get you a new one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHANTMXR6 It's not a MKI! Member 1,742 Member For: 16y 4m 17d Gender: Male Location: Earth Posted 14/01/10 02:36 PM Share Posted 14/01/10 02:36 PM As for the idea of innertube glue and hairspray I dont reckon will work. Ive had the turbo glowing bright red after spirited mountain runs and I dont reckon either of those things would survive at a guess 700degree tempsThat's why we recommend these things on the boosted side of the turbo, not the exhaust side. lolAs Rapid said, WD does what it's designed to do. Clean it all up and you should be smoothe sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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