MICKAJ Member 245 Member For: 16y 8m 30d Posted 10/01/10 07:29 AM Share Posted 10/01/10 07:29 AM IMO they don't need time on skid pans or tracks etc, that has nothing to do with real life driving on public roads. The lessons you learn about regaining control or an errant vehicle will hopefully never be needed if your a good driver in all other aspects. I mean seriously what the hell is the use of learning how to correct a spinning car? bit late once it comes to that.The best driver education is instilling the attitude of thinking ahead and predicting other driver behaviour. It is about teaching "dumb" people what good drivers consider common sense on the roads. Unfortunately there is a balance and these things are beyond the means of most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregor Member 459 Member For: 16y 3m 4d Posted 10/01/10 09:12 AM Share Posted 10/01/10 09:12 AM Saw a L plater driving a E series V8 today.This story was on today tonight and they looking into itL platers can drive anything, it's P platers that are restricted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest XR09 Guests Posted 10/01/10 09:57 AM Share Posted 10/01/10 09:57 AM IMO they don't need time on skid pans or tracks etc, that has nothing to do with real life driving on public roads. The lessons you learn about regaining control or an errant vehicle will hopefully never be needed if your a good driver in all other aspects. I mean seriously what the hell is the use of learning how to correct a spinning car? bit late once it comes to that.The best driver education is instilling the attitude of thinking ahead and predicting other driver behaviour. It is about teaching "dumb" people what good drivers consider common sense on the roads. Unfortunately there is a balance and these things are beyond the means of most people.Courses I taught at were 7.5 hrs long, including theory and practical. And always went well over that by the time you were out the gate.All of the do's and don't that you have stated are covered. And more. A lot more.Just do one. It's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharkit Donating Members 251 Member For: 17y 4m 20d Gender: Male Posted 10/01/10 04:45 PM Share Posted 10/01/10 04:45 PM Personally I want to but I dont know where to look. Ive done a drivers defensive course but that was more of a shock approach rather than learning skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Bionic My engine bay is Bionic Donating Members 3,726 Member For: 18y 8m 6d Gender: Male Location: Freeways Posted 11/01/10 02:31 AM Share Posted 11/01/10 02:31 AM L platers can drive anything, it's P platers that are restricted.A mind-boggling oversight in my view that has gone on to long.I.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradles024 Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 15y 11d Gender: Male Posted 11/01/10 03:41 AM Share Posted 11/01/10 03:41 AM I think the argument is that the L platers can drive anything if its the family car, eg dad drives a xr6t, mum doesnt drive, how do you learn? Cant do 120 hours with an instructor would cost a fortune. Should really have a car by then anyway but if you dont then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest XR09 Guests Posted 11/01/10 03:58 AM Share Posted 11/01/10 03:58 AM Our hours are 3 to 1. But even thirty hours is lots of money, I know.IMO Everyone and thier cars should be graded. As in power to weight and your ability to drive one. The increased engine performance the more education you have had.Classes could be mandatory attendance but not a fail/pass senerio. And anything over two thousand kilo not three, has to be driven by a graded driver. Sorry and as for the advanced classes, just go to the web page of a track near you. Most have what's happening in the coming months and who is doing what. You can see which school is using the track and book in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloo Member 403 Member For: 16y 6m 19d Gender: Male Location: Northern South Australia Posted 11/01/10 04:33 AM Share Posted 11/01/10 04:33 AM Cars dont kill people drivers do. Restrictions are a false initiative.Its a scam to make stupid people think the goverment is doing something about stupid drivers, and stupid people only associate hoon driving with teenagers. I am myself a 20 year old p plater, bought my first BA xr6t at 18, 2 weeks after my bday. I now drive a fg xr6t ute. Clearly no one 20 years old should still be on there p's so obviusly I have prior driving offences. But I drive sensible "now" because of the fear of loosing my license would stop me from being able to to get to work, I have a car loan and a morgage. If I lost my license it would reuin my life. Only reason.If they want to do things fair then I think drop everything, and up the fines and demerits on all offences. Anyone who hoons should get ass raped and have there rights to drive high powered cars taken away not just p platers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbohead Donating Members 58 Member For: 16y 10m 19d Posted 11/01/10 05:13 AM Share Posted 11/01/10 05:13 AM (edited) im on my L for another month or so now, and I have two cars both turbo, xf turbo(weekender) and xr6t (daily) and I will be driving both, as I am rego'ing them in the company name under the boss, so all I need is a lettle head saying eg. im going to pick up some house plans, or droping off some tools, or going to or from work etc, im a concreter as well so my work hours can be anytime :Dand also im not going to act like a dh on the roads eg. no speeding and sh*t, cos I don't wont to draw attendion, the only reason I didn't buy a non turbo xr6 cos I think there is no point in buying a car when for another couple of grand u cann get a turbo version Edited 11/01/10 05:16 AM by turbohead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Bionic My engine bay is Bionic Donating Members 3,726 Member For: 18y 8m 6d Gender: Male Location: Freeways Posted 11/01/10 05:19 AM Share Posted 11/01/10 05:19 AM Cars dont kill people drivers do. Restrictions are a false initiative.The same argument has been thrown around for years on gun ownership, but there restrictied usage was very effective.I.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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