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  On 08/12/2009 at 10:59 AM, inowereulive said:

im only 19 (Young). Would I consider myself a good driver???depends what you mean by this...

im confident with driving. Changing lanes at the last second is a breeze for me ( I do so safely)...and when I get in the car with other mates I can see that I am a better driver than them. But if you refer to drifiting as good driving than I am not.

Great, but changing lanes at the last second doesnt make for a good driver. In many cases it makes for a bad one.

  On 08/12/2009 at 10:59 AM, inowereulive said:
Getting sideways in the Wet/dry is not my thing.

that's good!

  On 08/12/2009 at 10:59 AM, inowereulive said:
I used to powerslide that around every corner possible...hoon up and down every street I could like every other Late model camira driver

But I thought it wasn't your thing and you couldnt drift very well.

Its got nothing to do with being a Late model camira driver but more to do with being an idiot behind the wheel

  On 08/12/2009 at 10:59 AM, inowereulive said:
I am looking into getting something newer with alot more go. ..looking for something 300+RWKW. I want the power. Really all this car will be used for will be the occasional squirt off from the lights/along the freeway. I will not go near getting this thing sideways intentionally

Im not going to lie to you (and I hope im wrong) but I see through all of this. Personal experience tells me that leopards dont change their spots

You've already made up your mind, so find a good condition BF 6speed auto XR6T and for the safety of the rest of us, do some track days / driver training courses

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I upgraded from a 98 VT to a 2007 XR6 Turbo about 4 months after getting my license. (Red XR6T on Red P plates looked so dam cool). I had no problems with it what so ever, they're great cars to drive. About 6 months ago I decided to trade in the XR6T and buy a Typhoon, best choice I made so far.

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I wouldn't limit yourself to just buying a ford. saying all japanese cars are crap is a bit foolish. what do you think about european? american?

if you hate all these and think you have to have either a ford or a Expensive Daewoo then good luck.

also, whats with young dudes getting massif loans for cars these days? or do they really have $20k saved up by the time they finish school? parents buying them cars? inheritance?

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Get one when you get off your p's that way you will have the plod off your back. :busted1:

Also a "good driver" doesnt need 300rwkw+, you would want 300rwkw to do "bad driver" sort of things.

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  On 08/12/2009 at 10:56 PM, Benji_vs said:

Also a "good driver" doesnt need 300rwkw+, you would want 300rwkw to do "bad driver" sort of things.

Lol, that's a good way of putting it.

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How about you get some quotes for insurance first. 19 yrs with 300 kw will equal north of $4k per year. It may cost you $300+ a month on top of your repayments! Parts, servicing, mods, tyres and lots of fuel will eat your junior wage in seconds. Have you thought about the figures or are you one of those "buy now, pay later" guys? An xr6T brings great joy, but will only bring pain if you can't afford it.

I drove a a camry for 6 years while I sorted my finances and grew up. If I had my xrT at 19, I'd be in jail or dead. Don't rationalise your decision. If you buy an xr6T, you WILL hoon and you WILL be sideways. You are 19 for crying out loud! Do you think a few speeding fines in the past will deter the temptation of 300rwkw? GET REAL!

Save your money, spend $5k on a corolla, drive that for 5 years, buy an investment property, learn to drive properly - you have compared yourself to your other young mates and have reasoned that you are a better driver.... If you had a brain, you would compare yourself to 30/40 year old who owns a powerful car or has proper driving experience.

Sorry to sound harsh, but you need to wake up a bit.

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Was looking for spend 25-30k.

Japanese cars??? Well every1 has one...their all the same...little matchbox cars which you cant tow a boat with and cant fit more than 1 person in the car with you

Insurance will be 2k a year...or less depending on how many strings I can pull with the oldies.

speeding/drifting...well I know my fines in the past have made me change my ways. I have been on 1 point now for what seems like forever and I value my license and understand how hard it would be to get around without a car..drifting?? well I crash my E series some time back and since then I have realised the unpredictability of Wet whether. Now I will not even think of getting on the accelerator around corners...wet or dry.

Making mind up...well no...im kind of in the inbetween atm. 25-30k is alot of money to borrow and does have me worried. But I was not thinking of taking this out for another 3-6 months wish I assume my financial position will only improve.

Really mentioning my age as 19 I was expecting to get nothing but slander from older drivers about getting a powerful car ( Its the Persone of every P plater).

Nonetheless.thanks for all the contructive critisicm

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I do know how you feel mate, I myself am a fairly young driver compared to others and I got my T when I was 24 at the start of the year but before that I only had a VS V6 Late model camira with an exhaust so the transition was fairly radical. Ive always loved cars and the temptation was too great so I brought one. But I will not stress enough that these cars are dangerous if your inexperienced. Not saying that im a terrific driver but I decided that id get one after my P's as I would have more experience under my belt and that my full license would keep the police at bay.

It just annoys me a little that 18-19 year olds come on here and ask the opinion of older drivers on whether they should buy a car and then tell them that they are looking for 300RWkw+ as if they can properly handle a car which just a couple of years ago would be in supercar territory. 300rwkw is roughly 360+ engine KW or in the old money almost 500hp!!!! Go into a BMW, AMG dealship and ask to test drive a M5 or AMG SLK and they will just laugh at you. Even if you had the cash from your trust fund to pay it.

I know this is just a rant and I dont wanna hurt any feelings but seriously just wait till your off your p's and have a few more years under your belt.

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Being young doesn't make you an idiot but it doesn't help your odds at all. I have had a pulsar since I got my P's and now I'm 24, did a turbo conversion and went from 75kw to 150kw then I've stepped into a T with 200kw (stock). The jump between 75 and 150 in a light car was by far the biggest shock, dont be so quick to write off smaller cars. Haven't had an accident but I put that down to having the common sense to understand theres a time and a place for enjoying your investment.

I dont see how insurance will be 2k if you are listed as a driver. I'm paying ~1300 as an owner with perfect no claim bonus, not in the city and no driving history.

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