New F6 - June 2010 - 321Kw , Over 600Nm

[bunna]

Sorry Campbellfield

never mind that - whats the scoop mate?

[revhead_71]

just found this

Australian-made Falcon could go, Ford boss warns | Herald Sun

can anyone explain?

If this really happens (remember we seem to hear this every 5 years or so when they begin the design of the next generation) then I would be snapping up the last of the line F6 and GT as these are destined to be future classics.

Imagine the implications for FPV of this decision??...Will we get instead the FPV Focus, Taurus, Mustang, Mondeo? or would the FPV name be replaced with some global performance brand? Shelby eg like the global AMG name for Mercedes

With respect to FPV/Ford Australia I really do hope it remains part of Global development program....especially for RWD sporty large cars like the Mustang. Our engineers are world class and its a shame FPV/Ford didn't develop an export program like Expensive Daewoo and Toyota to show the world our cars and engineering skills.

Now getting back to the original purpose of this thread has anyone actually heard/have any further info on the new F6 other than what I originally posted? Im surprised there are no leaks in the press, motor mags etc about the new F6...there usually is within 6 months of a change in model.

[bunna]

With respect to FPV/Ford Australia I really do hope it remains part of Global development program....especially for RWD sporty large cars like the Mustang. Our engineers are world class and its a shame FPV/Ford didn't develop an export program like Expensive Daewoo and Toyota to show the world our cars and engineering skills.

They weren't really allowed to - Ford US continued to sell the Lincoln in markets where the falcon/fairlane would owned. Besides, Ford Aus' engineering skills are being shown worldwide - almost entire product development team have been working on the new compact pick up (ranger replacement) that'll be sold worldwide.

[Corzza]

Well they want to follow what toyota and co have done in cutting down models and focusing on limited models to create more profitablity. The falcon will be replaced with something similat to the USA taurus. At this stage this is all I can say

[ZAP]

Looks like 2013 will be the last for the I6

Ford Falcon - Ford's Aussie six faces new challenge | GoAuto

Ford's Aussie six faces new challenge

Threatened: Ford's venerable I6 has been produced in Geelong since 1960.

New emission standards could knock out local Ford six-cylinder engine

12 January 2010

By JAMES STANFORD in Detroit

FORD Australia says engineering its locally produced in-line six engine to meet upcoming Euro 5 emission standards will be “difficult”.

The federal government last week released a draft report prepared by the transport department which recommends the Euro 5 emissions standard be introduced in Australia between 2012 and 2014. The deadline for the Ford Australia I6, should the report be approved and legislated, would be 2013.

The Euro 5 emission deadline looms as a possible end-date for the 4.0-litre engine that has been produced in various forms in Geelong since 1960 and is used for all locally produced models including Falcon, Falcon Ute and Territory.

Ford Australia announced in mid-2007 that it would end production of the Australian engine due partly to the fact that it would have cost too much to upgrade it to meet Euro 4 engine standards that come into force halfway through this year.

That decision was later reversed due to a range of factors, including the view that the engine could be engineered to meet Euro 4 standards for far less investment than was first estimated.

While engineers were able to upgrade the engine to the Euro 4 standard with very little change, adapting it to meet Euro 5 standards will be a far greater, and more expensive, task.

Ford Australia spokeswoman Sinead McAlary told GoAuto that engineers were already looking at ways the current engine could be upgraded to meet the Euro 5 regulations, but said it would not be easy.

“There is no doubt it is going to be difficult, but we thought Euro 4 was going to be hard as well,” Ms McAlary said.

She said the report came as no surprise to Ford Australia.

“We had known that they were going to put out this report; it had to come sooner or later,” she said.

Ford Australia would weigh up several options before it made a decision on the future of the in-line six plant in Geelong and whether upgrading it to meet Euro 5 would be viable, Ms McAlary said.

“What we have to do now, now that there is a deadline is, is ask whether it is possible. If it is possible, then, how much?” she said.

“A business case and engineering study has to be done.”

Ms McAlary said Ford Australia was keen to continue producing the in-line six which started off as Ford North America 2.4-litre unit into a modern dual-VCT 4.0-litre engine unique to the Australian operation.

“We always work on the idea of never say never,” she said.

With the current Falcon due for replacement in Falcon due in 2015, it is possible that the Euro 5 deadline could arrive quite close to the introduction of an all-new model that would either have an upgraded Australian I6 or US derived engine.

In this case, Ms McAlary said that it would, hypothetically, consider requesting an exemption to continue producing the current engine for a short period until the new vehicle arrived.

Ford Australia announced last July that it would introduce a turbocharged four-cylinder EcoBoost engine, which would meet Euro 5, for the Falcon in 2012.

Asked if Ford Australia would consider dropping the I6 upon the introduction of the Euro 5 standard and selling Falcon with only a four-cylinder EcoBoost, Ms McAlary indicated this was unlikely.

“I don’t think just running with EcoBoost would ever be our strategy,” she said. “EcoBoost will satisfy a group of customers who are primarily driven by fuel economy, but there will be customers who are after performance.”

The transport department report recommends that Euro 5 standards be introduced for newly introduced petrol vehicles in 2013 and existing vehicles in 2014. Newly introduced diesels would need to meet the Euro 5 standard by 2012 and existing diesels would have to meet the new standard by 2013.

The Rudd government has asked for industry and the broader community to comment on the proposed new regulations timetable which it says would cut emissions from cars, 4WDs and utes by as much as 90 per cent.

Federal transport minister Anthony Albanese said the Euro 5 emission standards would see a reduction of hydrocarbons by up to 50 per cent, a reduction of nitrogen oxides of up to 70 per cent and a reduction of particulate matter of up to 90 per cent.

Mr Albanese said the Euro 5 emission standards, introduced in Europe last year, were a cost-effective way of improving air quality in cities.

“While the air quality in our major cities has improved significantly in recent years, the growth in the number of vehicles means we must continually monitor our standards and where possible deploy new, more effective technologies,” he said.

[Evil F6]

Well they want to follow what toyota and co have done in cutting down models and focusing on limited models to create more profitablity. The falcon will be replaced with something similat to the USA taurus. At this stage this is all I can say

Well sayonara ford, it was nice if brief relationship. Ford US and GM US on the whole are clueless and conservative and it through their woeful cars they ended up in this mess. Foisting a FWD Taurus on us will spell the end of Ford Australia. Just like Mitsubishi Australia got screwed and had the US design 380 foisted on them.

[Corzza]

I know what you mean!

So hold on to your BF as it will be a legend in time. Who has read the Blown GT in the new MOTOR mag?

[mattyb]

Speaking of designs.... sorry to steal the thread, Has anyone seen the new 2011 Focus?????? VERY FG IN THE FRONT! Maybe the new "world wide taurus" will take the shape of the falcon not vice versa???

2011 Ford F - Ford new 2011 Focus designed will be top in efficiency, responsive and quiet - The Car Guide

[tab]

Same as the current Mondeo...they are all starting to look like they're from the same happy family

So hold on to your BF as it will be a legend in time.

Why? It's already been superseded by a superior vehicle

[markjh27]

Haha what a douche'. 3psi lol