New F6 - June 2010 - 321Kw , Over 600Nm

[FPV TRANNY]

Didnt the goverment give a handout to keep the engine manufacturing plant open?I thought they scraped the V6 to keep jobs in OZ.

[Ford powa]

Yeh I thought that too. Maybe it was only a 2 year budget or something. I pesonally reckon Ford should D/I the I6. More Aussie Jobs and still a aussie made engine.

[pharkit]

Yeah the v6 plan got scrapped so the I6 is still on the agenda..

Merry Christmas everyone!

[Venom XR6]

  On 24/12/2009 at 9:52 AM, F6Rdodg said:

2010 will see the end of current format I6 and Boss no matter what due to EuroIV Emissions control.

I6 may go direct injection, but unlikely as they (Fraud) already have the V6 twin turbo planned from the US powerplant, and will unlikely ever match the power and torque of the I6, so the F6 as we know it is likely to be canned long term.

Same goes for V8 Boss is dead - Coyote will be the next platform. They're alloy, stll have overhead cams, but lighter and higher revving, and with force fed air, should scream.

If they release a revised F6 with the current I6 retuned to 320+Kw and 600NM, it will have to be before July and Euro IV comes in, and absolutely will have to come with 265+ rear tread and beefier lower suspension as standard to put the power down.

As more than 60% of FPV sales are V8's most likely scenario is a broader range of Coyote based V8's N/A, supercharged and a single model V6 with the twin snails.

The V8's I'm guessing will need to be the big sellers to bring FPV's fight to HSV.

There will hardly be any difference between current I6 and the Euro 4 version.

[Guest XR09]

It really does not make any sense

BMW's strait 6 is one of the best motors in the world, sorry ford fans. But it is, and it meets the euro 4 easily. It has fantastic throttle response from it's twin turbo and the noise it makes it awsome.

Why would Ford drop the strait 6??? We already have it. It works, because its basic and uses less moving parts then a V6. It's naturally better balanced. If we go to a V6 then it will be a 60 degree and need balancers and bits. more weight and more to go wrong.

Lets just bring the old faithful into 2010 with an alloy bottom end to save weight. Maybe square the bore up for higher rpm and let it run it's course.

Pffft the V8, big heavy lots of moving parts. The old 6 is not dead, it has years left in it.

[Venom XR6]

All comes down to cost. Why spend money developing 2 different engines when one can do the job. Part of Fords One Ford policy of eradicating product duplication.

I'd give the I6 until 2015.

The new Mustang 3.7 V6 makes 227 kw without DI.

[Guest XR09]

V6 nah not for me. If it's a V then it has to be an 8. V6 supercars lol But you are right. Lets hope they sell off Volvo and Jag, and leave us alone.

[RIPGMH]

Hopefully the inline six hangs around for a whyle yet , somethings are not trully appreciated untill they are gone imo

I still recall the marketing bullcrap add on tv ,when the new Dunnydore engine appeared on the engine Dyno ,with tossers in white coats revving it up,it sounded like a camry LOL

Same engine ended up in alfas and a few others I cant recall

I recall reading a motoring article,where the journo commented along the lines: Why would they invest so many millions (Holden ),yet this new locally produced engine is Harsher,unrefined,less powerfull then its predecessor A 30 year old buick 3.8 ?

I hope Ford can learn from this lesson,if it aint broke dont fix it,who cares when ignorant people say: Ford is still using a 30 year old design with the I6!,It works perfectly and more to the point it kicks ass

[aiboart]

  On 27/12/2009 at 10:28 PM, RIPGMH said:

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I hope Ford can learn from this lesson,if it aint broke dont fix it,who cares when ignorant people say: Ford is still using a 30 year old design with the I6!,It works perfectly and more to the point it kicks ass

Well said, I recall that Porsche learnt a similar lesson with the 911 and 928 experience.

Cars that command a premium and make big profits are sold on more than performance and fuel consumption numbers.

This is not because numbers lie, it is just that it takes an lot of numbers to convey the essence of the driving experience.

To date no one has ever been able to generate the numbers that show what is so attractive about the 911, or the Harley that they command such astounding prices and premiums.

Regards,

aa

[fordfreak XRT07]

am keen to raed about this in upcoming moter mag or wheels... should expect some news pretty soon I would think..