Nsw - Speed & Red Light Camera Combo

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They were talking to the roads minister on 2gb just before xmas about this and he basicly said that you now have to consider that these cameras can replace any red light camera and they are called saftey cameras and saftey can mean red light and speeding

[Iconic Bionic]

Yeah google's been real goood to you. Keep citing away.

I.B.

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You bitches are so cute.

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[Evil F6]

  On 18/01/2010 at 8:50 AM, Iconic Bionic said:

Tolerance varies from state to state, except in Victoria, where I hear they have none. There use to be a formula for NSW speed cameras, but your guesses are as good as mine with the new ones. Remember they have to be paid off somehow.

I.B.

When *beep* Greiner was Premier, the tolerance was 15km/h, he said they were only after serious speeders. The SMH ran a story recently saying the tolerance was still too high as no was booked for doing 10 over.

I don't run red lights but it's interesting that at intersections with red light cameras, rear end collisions have surged. Wait and see what happens with the combos, as people running ambers now realize at the last second it's a speed camera and do a panic stop. Now of course you shouldn't be tailgating, but heaps do.

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  On 18/01/2010 at 1:52 PM, pharkit said:

What's the big issue??

I cite facts and you go all weird and emotional???

I don't see what's so hard to accept here. It's not about "driving fast" that's the whole point!

Sorry.

I guess it's cause I live and breath it every day. I do it for a job and I do it on my own time as well. I know so many others that do as well. And we do it to try and save lives.

But good roads are just not going to happen in our lifetime, and even if we do pay 5 times the rate now of rego to cover it and maybe in 35 years we will see some results for that. It still will only reduce the road toll by a small margin.

We have a death a fortnight or more from Gympie to Bris. A 300k stretch. And the road is good. No for 90% of it, it's great. But they still keep dying. From Cooroy to gympie it's now an 60 - 80 zone for 70k. And still once a month it happens.

And these are just the deaths. Believe me mate there are a lot worse things than dying.

The figures you see are what they want you to see. Put four analysts in a room with some figures and you will get six different results.

Go sit for a session in parliment. You will either laugh your head off, or go buy a high powered rifle and climb a tall tower.

[Trucka]

Yes, the quality of driving on that stretch (particularly between Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast) is appalling at times. The worst I saw was one friday right on dusk I was driving down to Brisbane and just north of Caboolture there was a heavy shower of rain. Now you'd think that people would slow down due to the road being wet (that particular stretch is 110km/h), but I did not see one person slow down. I didn't slow down like I usually would because I was certain that I would have been rear ended due to the idiots who were speeding and the fact that visibility was quite poor. I seriously considered pulling over for a half hour until conditions improved.

With regards to the number of people dying, yes improved roads will help a bit, but there are so many other factors that contribute to fatal crashes that fixing one is only like a drop in the ocean.

In my opinion the number of people who die on the roads represents a fraction of a percent of the actual people who are on the roads at any one time and we will never be able to prevent all fatal crashes from occurring. My condolences go out to everyone who has ever lost a loved one in an accident, one of my mates from school died early one morning out in the bush when he rolled his ute driving home from a party. Thankfully his passenger escaped major injury and was able to go for help but unfortunately it wasn't in time.

By definition accidents are not preventable as no one knows when they are going to happen. The best we can do is to improve the various aspects of driving (I.e. roads, training and general driving attitudes imparted to young people by their parents) that we have control over to try and minimise the chances that an accident will occur.

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Pharkit, if you have nothing constructive to add then don’t bother.

  On 19/01/2010 at 6:08 AM, XR09 said:

From Cooroy to gympie it's now an 60 - 80 zone for 70k.

Isn’t it 90 km/h? Regardless I’d love to see the stats since they dropped the limit on that stretch, I’d bet my left testicle that the accidents have increased due to the greater congestion and increase in fatigue. That is the most ridiculous decision our retarded government has ever made.

[Trucka]

Used to be 90 but they recently pulled it back to 80. I'm glad that I hardly ever have to go up that way.

[Guest XR09]

Nah did it about two months ago going to hervey bay. 60-70 & 80 now and lots of roadwork either side of gympie. Shame use to love a game of golf at gympie and the best burgers this side of the sun.

yes the rate went up just after they changed the speed. But I think it was the sept/oct holidays so traffic was heavier.

But it has dropped now, the fatality rate on that stretch.

It use to take about 3 hours max from home to on the boat in hervey. In holidays look at a safe four now. without roadworks maybe 3.5

Basically it has added 3/4 of an hour to get to Rocky from brisvegas.

That one road is a nightmare from Gympie to port doug.

I personally think the only solution is that "it's your fi fi's responsability to give you head to relax you when you stop every two hours".

1. Like who wouldn't stop for a break?

2. You would be more relaxed behind the wheel

3. who cares about getting there, the drive is the good bit lol

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It was still 90 at christmas...if not I got through unscathed luckily