Paulie2256 Donating Members 7,441 Member For: 16y 26d Gender: Male Location: SE Melbourne Posted 05/02/12 08:27 AM Share Posted 05/02/12 08:27 AM Group buys on these have never got the price down much. Just ring up Alex from plazy and see what he can do it for. Usually does a good price.If you had an FG I'd say buy mine. I want a twin pump setup What's the difference between the Fg and bf surge tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 6m 17d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 05/02/12 09:01 AM Share Posted 05/02/12 09:01 AM ive asked that q many times to j.d and no response was avaliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riptide Member 733 Member For: 13y 11m Gender: Male Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posted 05/02/12 09:03 AM Share Posted 05/02/12 09:03 AM (edited) I think they mount slightly differently...Could be wrong though. Edited 05/02/12 09:04 AM by riptide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1600dave Donating Members 872 Member For: 13y 11m 9d Posted 05/02/12 09:11 AM Share Posted 05/02/12 09:11 AM The BA/BF swaybar mounts have two short bolts, the FG have longer bolts that run all the way through the rail with a nut on the end. Apart from that, the same I think?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie2256 Donating Members 7,441 Member For: 16y 26d Gender: Male Location: SE Melbourne Posted 05/02/12 10:21 AM Share Posted 05/02/12 10:21 AM Thanks mate.Sooo ahhh change the bolts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjaz Donating Members 1,841 Member For: 16y 11d Gender: Male Location: CQ Posted 05/02/12 10:57 AM Share Posted 05/02/12 10:57 AM I think the holes are actually drilled in different spots, so longer bolts and redrill holes in the surge tank and might fit??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP1D Member Donating Members 3,739 Member For: 18y 6m 29d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 05/02/12 12:07 PM Share Posted 05/02/12 12:07 PM Yep just different bolts on the Plazmaman tank.I've talked about group buys with Alex a few times, main issue is there's not a huge mark up on these products anyway, so the lower group buy price may not be too impressive.At the end of the day, there's really no solid way to do the surge tank set up like these for much less... I've looked at doing my own at a lower cost, but by the time all the parts are added up its close to these two anyway... The only way to reduce price is use cheaper connections, hoses, pump ect... But there's no way I'm selling a cut price fuel system, seen too many fuel system leaks from poor quality hoses and fittings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 5m 11d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 05/02/12 12:08 PM Share Posted 05/02/12 12:08 PM Twin 044's on a stock reg don't cause rich afr's , just a rich long term fuel trim and buggers your injector scaling. Closed loop cleans everything up. With e85 the injector pulsewidth is much greater and this is less of an issue anyway. The PW surge is supplied with bolts for both the FG and the BA/BF....with the FG being longer as mentioned. Such an easy piece of kit to fit, it really is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 4m 8d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 05/02/12 10:38 PM Share Posted 05/02/12 10:38 PM Twin 044's on a stock reg don't cause rich afr's , just a rich long term fuel trim and buggers your injector scaling. Closed loop cleans everything up. With e85 the injector pulsewidth is much greater and this is less of an issue anyway.Twin 044's on stock reg does cause rich afr's. the LTFT attempts to fix it, but hits 30% max change (or was it 25%?) and gives up. even when it hits the max LTFT, it is still rich. I've stuffed around with injector scalers for hours trying to get it clean, and the best I could do was rich on idle, and slightly richer than lambda when in gear (on a auto obviously).If it was a boot mounted twin 044, then yeah. maybe it might be ok as pressure will be lost on the length of the feed pipe.I even tried a T piece (instead of Y peice) the 2 044's together prior to feeding the rail in attempt to avoid changing the reg at first.. It helped, but not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 5m 11d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 06/02/12 02:32 AM Share Posted 06/02/12 02:32 AM No $hit hey, what fuel pressure are you seeing. Normally around 4.6 bar with two 044 at idle on an I modified reg. Did you drill out the return? Have a look at the 034motorsports replacement regs. The return on these dwarfs the stock reg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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