Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 6m 8d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 26/01/12 11:34 PM Share Posted 26/01/12 11:34 PM So FG's running stock turbos should upgrade there pump but don't need a surge tank as they can't make over 330? Lot's of tuners say the FG pump is fine to max the stock turbo but I'd still upgrade it just for piece of mind.If you give it a bootfull with an empty tank it's your own fault anyway.It's easy to just say buy everything but there has to be levels where stuff is actually needed or not, otherwise everyone should just buy fully built engines with 10k fuel setups then nothing can go wrong.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjaz Donating Members 1,841 Member For: 15y 11m 26d Gender: Male Location: CQ Posted 26/01/12 11:45 PM Share Posted 26/01/12 11:45 PM so headsex in your opinion surge tank and 044 is good enough for high 300s? or you think both intank and surge are needed. It would take alot of WOT to drain a surge tank even with a stock intank pump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f6mark Member 2,908 Member For: 13y 9m 20d Gender: Male Posted 26/01/12 11:48 PM Share Posted 26/01/12 11:48 PM good right up headsex. iv got a intank pump now.. but iv got a surge&044 pump to go in very soon so I can up my race tune to 380rwk. my street tune is 350rwk on a low boost 15psi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual harrassment panda I see a red door and I want to paint it black Donating Members 5,919 Member For: 15y 1m 9d Gender: Male Location: Far north queensland Posted 26/01/12 11:50 PM Share Posted 26/01/12 11:50 PM walbros are cheap mate.I now have full overkill, herrod intank setup + pw surge tank with twin 044's. and I'm making a bit under 380rwkw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie2256 Donating Members 7,441 Member For: 16y 12d Gender: Male Location: SE Melbourne Posted 26/01/12 11:54 PM Share Posted 26/01/12 11:54 PM I have a surge tank and 044 on a ute making only 300. I don't have to worry about a thing giving it a boot full or throwing it sideways with the fuel light on. Changing the intank pump is the waste of money and not the surge tank IMOYou definitely wont drain a surge tank on the street. Unless you are running from the cops maybe but still doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 3m 23d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 27/01/12 12:11 AM Share Posted 27/01/12 12:11 AM so headsex in your opinion surge tank and 044 is good enough for high 300s? or you think both intank and surge are needed. It would take alot of WOT to drain a surge tank even with a stock intank pump?Depending on fuel choice. If you said e85, I would say you need a second 044.Provided the intank pump is in good working order, it should be fine for a supply pump, and yes, provided the main tank is NOT surging, (ie, less than 1/4 tank fuel), it should manage to keep the surge tank full.Remembering under normal conditions, it operates at 5 bar + boost total presure . When running as a supply pump for the surge tank, it has a much easier job, and should be fine. Obviously a High KM based vehicle / intank pump, I would suggest otherwise. Infact, what I would suggest is1) Get a surge tank, 0442) replace the fuel filter under the car/passenger seat position3) remove intank, clean the black sh*t out of the swirl pot, and inspect the intanks fuel filter. Replace as required.I can garentee that when people fit surge tanks, they forget about 2 and 3 above.I currently have a Walbro intank, and a PW surge tank with 2 fuel pumps. I also have the PW fuel rail which allows me to feed each pump to each side of the fuel rail, with a center return which goes via a Turbosmart fuel regulator.Realistically, anyone above 400rwkw should have a setup like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednose RNS10S Donating Members 2,229 Member For: 18y 3m 18d Gender: Male Posted 27/01/12 12:28 AM Share Posted 27/01/12 12:28 AM Danny,I have 410 rwkw on E85, 360 rwkw on 98. My setup consists of:Walbro intank.Paper Filter (changed every 10,000)Plazmaman surgeAeromotive A1000Am I ok with stock the rail and reg or should I be looking into a dual fed rail with a better reg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjaz Donating Members 1,841 Member For: 15y 11m 26d Gender: Male Location: CQ Posted 27/01/12 12:35 AM Share Posted 27/01/12 12:35 AM Depending on fuel choice. If you said e85, I would say you need a second 044.Provided the intank pump is in good working order, it should be fine for a supply pump, and yes, provided the main tank is NOT surging, (ie, less than 1/4 tank fuel), it should manage to keep the surge tank full.Remembering under normal conditions, it operates at 5 bar + boost total presure . When running as a supply pump for the surge tank, it has a much easier job, and should be fine. Obviously a High KM based vehicle / intank pump, I would suggest otherwise.Infact, what I would suggest is1) Get a surge tank, 0442) replace the fuel filter under the car/passenger seat position3) remove intank, clean the black sh*t out of the swirl pot, and inspect the intanks fuel filter. Replace as required.I can garentee that when people fit surge tanks, they forget about 2 and 3 above.I currently have a Walbro intank, and a PW surge tank with 2 fuel pumps. I also have the PW fuel rail which allows me to feed each pump to each side of the fuel rail, with a center return which goes via a Turbosmart fuel regulator.Realistically, anyone above 400rwkw should have a setup like this.yea I change the inline filter pretty much every service so that's not a worry, but in the fg I havent inspected the intank pump/filter yet...thanks for the tips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 3m 23d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 27/01/12 01:17 AM Share Posted 27/01/12 01:17 AM Danny,I have 410 rwkw on E85, 360 rwkw on 98. My setup consists of:Walbro intank.Paper Filter (changed every 10,000)Plazmaman surgeAeromotive A1000Am I ok with stock the rail and reg or should I be looking into a dual fed rail with a better reg?The aeromotive is a good piece of gear, So with your powerlevels I'll suggest it should be fine, as long as it does not lean out on e85 on the dyno (your tuner should hook up a pressure/flow guage to your fuel rail return to determine if your fuel pump is running out of flow on e85. obviously you haven't speculated what injector you have, which also plays a part in deciding if this setup is suitable or not.The stock rail and reg is "ok", but in saying that, there are issues. The std reg can not bleed off enough fuel when it is not required, so you have excessively rich idle/low loads. at high loads its fine.A duel feed fuel raid wouldn't work well in your situation, You only have 1 pump. If you split that into two, I don't really see a large advantage of this over single feeding.However, I do recommend you get a aftermarket fuel reg like the turbosmart fpr1200 instead of the std one, esp with the a1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual harrassment panda I see a red door and I want to paint it black Donating Members 5,919 Member For: 15y 1m 9d Gender: Male Location: Far north queensland Posted 27/01/12 01:34 AM Share Posted 27/01/12 01:34 AM I now have full overkill, herrod intank setup + pw surge tank with twin 044's. and I'm making a bit under 380rwkw.forgot to mention Turbosmart FPR 1200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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