pharkit Donating Members 251 Member For: 17y 4m 6d Gender: Male Posted 12/11/09 03:21 PM Share Posted 12/11/09 03:21 PM By the way you could always do a driver defensive course. Here they're held in police youth centres, and about 90% of the people who go were made to by a magistrate for serious driving offences. I went to one (voluntarily) and got a 90 day suspension knocked down to 30 days. But, its a 10 week course, 2 hours per session, and you cant skip any classes. Still glad I went, it was a real eye-opener. Had cops, ambo drivers, serious crash victims etc.. come each week and talk to the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straughsberry Donating Members 1,846 Member For: 17y 2m 24d Gender: Male Location: Broady, Melbourne Posted 12/11/09 07:48 PM Share Posted 12/11/09 07:48 PM Yeah this desperate defence has popped up a few times. It did get a real good flogging in a recent retained readings thread.I.B.A few years ago I got booked on a country road by a car mounted radar. I was fairly sure I was doing about 118. Definitely under 120. But the officer said I was doing 126. It didn't make a difference to the fine or demerit points lost so I didn't bother taking it anywhere. There are discrepancies in actual and detected speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Bionic My engine bay is Bionic Donating Members 3,726 Member For: 18y 7m 23d Gender: Male Location: Freeways Posted 12/11/09 10:54 PM Share Posted 12/11/09 10:54 PM More notibly at the higher speeds as your own speedometer is not calibrated and after 100kph its 10% tolerated inaccuarcy can be higher.I.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuckSqueezeBangBlow ʎǝʞuoɯ ɹoıuǝs Donating Members 1,808 Member For: 15y 10m 26d Gender: Male Posted 13/11/09 01:34 AM Share Posted 13/11/09 01:34 AM I saw 2 cops at Long Reef (Collaroy) using a hand held gun, I was going roughly 70 in the 60 zone but I'm sure my hilux reads high. Straight away I started thinking about what was said in this thread about asking what range they got me and noted they were NOT using a tripod. anyways, they let me drive straight past... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d rangd Member 341 Member For: 15y 11m 26d Posted 13/11/09 01:50 AM Share Posted 13/11/09 01:50 AM Look, to give my opinion. The speed limits are there, stick to them or get busted. Its your choice. d rangd, if you think that having a bit of fun in a back street is safe, then you are wrong. Mate if you want to have fun like that, then go to the track and take it up there. Only for the sake of your life, becuase honestly, any kind of collision over 50km/h on impact, can severely do spinal damage and even cause death. Just because theres no other people or cars around, doesn't mean its safe to be a dickhead. Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but Ive had my share of incidents with people like this.Also craginmackay, it was very nice of you to go through my whole post, break it up and point out all the parts you thought were wrong, honestly. But mate give it up, the road rules are there, and personaly I agree that if the limits were raised, then the fatalities due to fatigue would drop, but the fatalaties occuring due to speed, would increase. Only for the fact that our roads are not set up for such a speed. So either way, we lose.And you know what mate, they do save lives. Because you think, the stopping distance is greatly increased when the speed increases, thus making it harder to miss pedestrians, other motorists, animals, and other hazards. Every one is entitled to their opinion, and this is just mine. My opinion is that speed limits do save lives and yes I would like the speed limit raised on highway/country roads, but who the hell sticks to the current speed limit, and if it was raised then no one would stick to that either.mate im saying its safer for other people. driving a car itself isnt 'safe' if you want to be a granny, bloody LIVING kills you for fks sake. if I want to go out of my way to a industrial estate and have a bit of a fang I think it should be looked on less harshly, and more specifically, police shouldnt go out of there way to get you there. but yeah id LOVE to be able to go to the track every time I feel the desire for some butterflys in my stomach...just not a simple quick fix that it should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronburgundy I love gooold member Donating Members 1,222 Member For: 15y 10m 8d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne (west) Posted 13/11/09 01:52 AM Share Posted 13/11/09 01:52 AM FWIW I've also heard purely anecdotally, and it's not just speeding but also drink driving, that sometimes people with 'borderline' cases are let off so that the statistics look better; to show that policies to 'reduce fatalities' are actually working.I'm pretty sure most of the last 2 pages has very little to do with, in any specific sense, the OP, but oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Bionic My engine bay is Bionic Donating Members 3,726 Member For: 18y 7m 23d Gender: Male Location: Freeways Posted 13/11/09 03:04 AM Share Posted 13/11/09 03:04 AM There is no doubt that some of the stats are manipulated for an intended purpose. Road deaths as the result of suicide are no longer counted in the annual toll as one example. I.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharkit Donating Members 251 Member For: 17y 4m 6d Gender: Male Posted 13/11/09 05:36 AM Share Posted 13/11/09 05:36 AM mate im saying its safer for other people. driving a car itself isnt 'safe' if you want to be a granny, bloody LIVING kills you for fks sake. if I want to go out of my way to a industrial estate and have a bit of a fang I think it should be looked on less harshly, and more specifically, police shouldnt go out of there way to get you there. but yeah id LOVE to be able to go to the track every time I feel the desire for some butterflys in my stomach...just not a simple quick fix that it should beThere's always going to be those who drop their pants and bend over for the cops/Government policies and have a "Give it to me hard" attitude. These are the same people who get all high and mighty when others dare to stand up for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Bionic My engine bay is Bionic Donating Members 3,726 Member For: 18y 7m 23d Gender: Male Location: Freeways Posted 13/11/09 09:49 AM Share Posted 13/11/09 09:49 AM Is this your admission to being one of them? I.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevs Member 781 Member For: 17y 6m 21d Gender: Male Location: balmain Posted 13/11/09 09:58 AM Author Share Posted 13/11/09 09:58 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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