New Plazmaman Fg Intercooler

[straughsberry]

  On 03/12/2009 at 3:02 PM, BFHOON said:

back to the topic quality quality quality.

we all know tube and fin coolers flow extremly well, some say too well sacraficing cooling but with the added internal fins slowing flow down and providing excelent cooling this combo is perfectly matched between cooling and flow. not months but years of develpoment went into producing this core.

blah blah blah this cooler vs that cooler wank wank money in the bank I know where my money goes when buying top noch coolers.

I have seen data that showed one tube and fin cooler had more of a temp rise than a bar and plate cooler. The B&P had a rise of 12c over a run and the T&F had 22c from memory. The thing to remember is that there's more power being made by the T&F because of substantially less pressure drop over the B&P.

I have to agree though - wank wank wank blah blah blah. I'm about to order me one of the Plazmaman 1800 HP jobs. These are a new core with more internal fins so they will cool a little better but still have small amounts of pressure drop. Also, this thing weights under 8kg! For 1800hp worth of cooling, that is very impressive. My Nizpro cooler is around 14kg from memory.

[wagnman]

I know zero about intercoolers but I do know quality work when I see it and all I can say is that when you see the Plazmaman cooler and pipe kits you just know without a doubt that you are looking at a good product.

Everything reeks of quality from the surface finish to the beautiful welding to the way they have "ported" the intake and outlet pipes that lead in and out of the cooler.

I'm sure the results will be there on the dyno and out on the street / strip.

Edited 08/12/09 11:18 AM by wagnman

[omie_747]

Look forward to seeing pictures, thanks allot guys. I have no doubt that these coolers should perform well, be interesting how it goes with the smaller turbos on the xr6/g6et's. Thanks again.

[BFHOON]

  On 08/12/2009 at 10:26 AM, straughsberry said:

I have seen data that showed one tube and fin cooler had more of a temp rise than a bar and plate cooler. The B&P had a rise of 12c over a run and the T&F had 22c from memory. The thing to remember is that there's more power being made by the T&F because of substantially less pressure drop over the B&P.

I have to agree though - wank wank wank blah blah blah. I'm about to order me one of the Plazmaman 1800 HP jobs. These are a new core with more internal fins so they will cool a little better but still have small amounts of pressure drop. Also, this thing weights under 8kg! For 1800hp worth of cooling, that is very impressive. My Nizpro cooler is around 14kg from memory.

I agree more powwer from more flow.

on a darg car being tested by the plazmaman boys they tested an equaly sized b&p cooler vs the t&f cooler and got a slower time with the b&p cooler because of the loss of flow.

of course you can tune the bar and plate cooler the same way by removing internal fins to provide flow but cooling is reduced. same way as flow is reduced by adding internal fins to the tube and fin cooler .

the key is finding the peak flow vs cooling capasity ratio and perfecting the package to suit the desired application.

the weight is the key also when it comes to heat soak and recovery rates.

in no way am I saying tube and fin is better than bar and plate, it depends on what kind of driving you are doing and what hp numbers you are after.

nice choice btw im looking forward to seeing what numbers your beast pulls with the 1800 setup.

Edited 08/12/09 02:27 PM by BFHOON

[HIRO F6]

I had the 1800hp cooler in my hands the other day and was amazed at how light it was.

[omie_747]

hiro how did you go with those pics of it on the car??

cheers bud

[wagnman]

Alright!

The car goes in tomorrow for the cooler etc.

pick it up tuesday arvo so I'll give you all teh run down on how it went then.

[Process West]

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For 1800hp worth of cooling, that is very impressive

The pics of the XR6T with 1800hp that this intercooler was tested on aren't loading...I wonder why??

Edited 13/12/09 12:12 PM by Process West

[straughsberry]

So you're saying that the tag of "1800hp" at this point in time is just that - a tag. I get that

But it certainly seems built like it will do the job for my planned 1000+hp. Big bore, large area, decent core, excellent workmanship and on top of all that, very un-weighty. I guess I'll see how it performs when it comes time for tuning in my build.

Edited 13/12/09 03:24 PM by straughsberry

[omie_747]

no worries wagnman sounds good dude. hope it all works out for you.

cheers