RUS531 RUS531 Donating Members 410 Member For: 18y 3m 22d Gender: Male Location: Emerald QLD Posted 15/10/09 11:50 AM Share Posted 15/10/09 11:50 AM Hey guys please help,After a "spirited" 1st to 2nd gear change earlier tonight, the engine has lost all oil pressure. The engine was still running but both the oil pressure indicatior on the cluster was on, and my gauge was reading nothing. I pulled over as soon as I could and shut her off popped the bonnet expecting to see oil everywhere but there was nothing, not even a smell other than what you would expect from a hot motor. I was thinking (hopefully) maybe a sensor error, so I cautiously started again, no oil pressure and there was a small noise comming from the front of the engine that sounded like something was broken/loose. It was like a click-click-click like a something loose or gears not meshing properly. So I am thinking the oil pump has obviously failed and smashed itself. I had been driving the ute all day and was warmed up fully.How hard is it to get to the oil pump to have a look? And how are these driven? are they off the crank shaft.Feel free everyone to throw suggestions, thoughts, or past experiences out there. I need a bit of direction and better understanding on how the oil pump works on these motors. All I know is that they are of the gear type.Cheers,Cameron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednuts81 Get on the end of it..... Member 578 Member For: 18y 11m 25d Gender: Male Location: CQ Posted 15/10/09 12:22 PM Share Posted 15/10/09 12:22 PM (edited) Oil pump gears Edited 15/10/09 10:10 PM by tab Quote removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUS531 RUS531 Donating Members 410 Member For: 18y 3m 22d Gender: Male Location: Emerald QLD Posted 15/10/09 10:03 PM Author Share Posted 15/10/09 10:03 PM Havin a chat to the partner's old boy and he said the noise I was hearing could be the slack in the timing chain, due to there beeing no oil pressure in the chain tensioner, if that's the way it works. It could be the gears the are f@rked but it could be something simple....Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 17y 10m 4d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 15/10/09 11:38 PM Share Posted 15/10/09 11:38 PM You basically need to strip the front of the motor to get to the oil pump, and from memory you need to drop the sump to do that, so its an engine out job. First step would be to pull the rocker cover off and see if you can see any shrapnel or if the timing chain is loose. Good luck mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUS531 RUS531 Donating Members 410 Member For: 18y 3m 22d Gender: Male Location: Emerald QLD Posted 16/10/09 01:52 AM Author Share Posted 16/10/09 01:52 AM Thanks for the info Senna. I was going to pull the oil filter off and cut it open to look for steel. Stupid questions but what would a loose timing indicate?Unfortunatly im not at home, im visiting the other half in gladstone so it makes things a little difficult... but her dad has an aircraft workshop with an engine hoist plenty of tools and jacks. That said, would it be worth having a go at the repair work myself. A local performance shop quoted me about $1200 for an atomic oil pump does this sound right or should/can I go through atomin directly.CheersCam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 17y 10m 4d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 16/10/09 02:12 AM Share Posted 16/10/09 02:12 AM Seak to Brad at Atomic directly mate, he's always happy to help out and his customer service is top notch If the timing chain is loose then it can possibly tell you if the oil pump has exploded as the chain runs off a sprocket in front of the oil pump, I've seen one get destroyed as a result of this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 5m 4d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 16/10/09 02:29 AM Share Posted 16/10/09 02:29 AM Kostecki in Perth also do billet oil pump gears. PM F6 UTE, he's done this to his old Tornado a few times lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUS531 RUS531 Donating Members 410 Member For: 18y 3m 22d Gender: Male Location: Emerald QLD Posted 16/10/09 03:10 AM Author Share Posted 16/10/09 03:10 AM Beat ya to it senna, I rang him and had a chat just after I posted my last message. You are right too mate, he is excellent to talk to and answered all of my questions, very very helpfull!!well the oil pump is about 200 bucks cheaper if I buy it through him. What ever I do with the engine I think I will pull it out and do it myself with the help of the father in-law. I cant justify paying the extra grand or so to pull an engine out and put it back in by a workshop.So my options are:Replace the oil pump if there is no visible damage to the internals and risk possible future damage.New short motor which atomic now supply with an oil pump. 5k - 6k (if the cams ect are alright and havent experienced excessive wear)Just bite the bullet pull the cash somewhere out of my arse and get the whole box and dice for 8k - 9k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straughsberry Donating Members 1,846 Member For: 17y 3m 23d Gender: Male Location: Broady, Melbourne Posted 16/10/09 03:40 AM Share Posted 16/10/09 03:40 AM Bummer.PM me if you need Kostecki oil pump gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravelrash Member 211 Member For: 21y 11m 9d Gender: Male Location: Dalby, QLD Posted 16/10/09 12:27 PM Share Posted 16/10/09 12:27 PM Cameron, mate your half handy with a spanner. if I was you I would be having a go at it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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