My Zf Just Sh*t Its Self

[trevs]

BF-FG bottom end approx $2600

yeah not bad I just called fga salvage $3000 for bf mk11 or 1500 for a gas engine same as turbo but without turbo head of which ill put mine on if its rooted

but the $2600 for a new one is cheap really and ford only put a new turbo on my car about 3 months ago so the turbo is still in good nick at least would just need new coil packs , value springs oil pump gears to build a half decent motor not really interested on major power anyway

that's if the motor is ruined anyway maybe its just something simple

[Full Monty]

yeah I wouldnt think your motor is ruined from the description it was more like a slipping...Youd hear all sorts of clunks and bangs if it were bottom end.

flex plate loose, torque converter failed/malfunctioning?

[XtRmn8]

Why is everyone jumping to conclusion and pulling figures out of the air if the problem is not know yet?

Could turn out to be something minor.

[Adrian6T]

As per your description mate, It does not sound like your motor. Get it looked at by someone who knows what they are doing.

[trevs]

thanks mate I was recommend by the gearbox guy whos a great bloke and has been rebuilding gearboxes for nearly 30 years and has done a few gear boxes for family members over the years all of which where well done jobs .

to give the mechanic next door to them a go said his done a lot of work for him over the last 20 years or so without any major problems

both shops are really busy so they must be doing something right and the gearbox shop does all the local car dealers gearbox rebuilds ,ford,holden ,jag and a few others

now ive just gotta play the waiting game which is the hardest of all I just wish I had the time to pull it apart myself

I wonder if my fuel pump install about 6 weeks ago has anything to do with this I dont reckon it would since its been fine the whole time since the install although one day last week it had trouble starting

I used the hose that came with the fuel pump from the group buy has anyone else had any problems

still wouldnt explain the slipping sound coming from the car under load but ?

cheers trev

[our06t]

not having a go at the guy but I know very good auto builders that have been in the game for years too , but they don't know sh*t about the zf ,these fords are the first aus built car to have one and alot of people just don't know how they work.

with your history and being so close to running out of warranty ,I would be taking it in to ford and have a serious talk with them , you do have a case ford should be looking at

Edited 21/07/09 09:08 AM by our06t

[trevs]

I realize what your saying but the car would have be to towed to a ford dealer and the nearest one to the car doesnt want to help (assholes) and has told me to take it to the dealer whos been doing the services the last few years

so I figured the gearbox has been ruled out and since ford where going to charge me if the problem isnt going to be covered under warranty ( maybe my fuel pump install has something to do with it all though I dont think it would )

it wouldnt hurt to let the guy next to the gearbox place have a look at the car if its cheap and simple ill get him to fix it give him the money and get on with my life as normal if its a major problem ill get him to write a report and tow it to ford tomorrow and try my luck ive already spoke to ford customer relationship centre today and have told them what I plan on doing and they said that's fine

the gearbox guy has been honest and said his never worked on a ford zf six speed box but has been doing a lot of zf work for a long time in marine,cars and small trucks and his shop has done many other six speed autos both service and rebuild related plus his mates with the zf rep and has all the paper work from him he showed me today while I was dropping off the car as he said everybody has to do their first one even the guys your talking about that have done many

but thanks for info and trying to help

cheers mate trev

Edited 21/07/09 11:52 PM by tab
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[SuckSqueezeBangBlow]

aussie built car yes, but the same gearbox was in the BMW V8 X5 almost 10 years ago so I'm sure some gearbox workshops would have had a few through by now.

I agree Ford should help you if you get the right person onside.

[our06t]

ah no it the zf 26 you guys are running first appeared in the X5 bm in 2004 I have one

they where in some earlier 7 series but not something most auto shops see

The 6HP26 was the first 6-speed automatic transmission in a production passenger car. Released by ZF Friedrichshafen AG in 2000, it is manufactured by ZF Getriebe GmbH in Saarbrücken, Germany.

The 6HP26 uses a Lepelletier planetary gearset, which can provide more gear ratios with significantly fewer components. This means the 6HP26 is actually lighter than its 5-speed predecessors. It also has the capability to achieve torque converter lock-up on all six forward gears and disengage it completely when at a standstill, dramatically closing the fuel efficiency gap between automatic and manual transmissions.

The 6HP26 was first used by BMW on the 2001 E65 7 Series, though Audi was the first announced user with their 2003 A8.

While the 6HP26 itself is rated for a maximum input torque of 600 Nm, sister products with different ratings exist in the form of the 6HP19 and 6HP32. In addition to this, several versions of the 6HP26 are available depending on application and brand: 6HP26, 6HP26A and 6HP26X.

Applications:

* 2001–present BMW E65/E66 7 Series

* 2002–present Jaguar XJ

* 2003–present Audi A8

* 2003–present Jaguar S-Type

* 2003–present Range Rover

* 2003–present BMW E63/E64 6 Series

* 2003–present Bentley Continental GT

* 2004–2006 BMW E53 X5 V8

* 2004–present BMW E60 5 Series

* 2005–present Land Rover Discovery

* 2005–present Ford Falcon

* 2005–present Bentley Continental Flying Spur

* 2006–present Audi S6

* 2006–present Range Rover Sport

* 2007–present BMW E70 X5

* 2007–present Jaguar XK8/XKR

* 2007-present Maserati Quattroporte

Edited 21/07/09 10:04 AM by our06t

[turtl3tim]

well, sounds like im about to be up for the same thing, my trans slips in 3rd and if I put my foot down I can go right up to 6th, every gear it does the same thing, its sits at 2000rpm and gradually builds up speed. iv had it in ford 3 times in the last 5 days, all they did was reset the tyre peramiters and said it was fine after, ive been for a drive twice with the foreman now and he said all we can do is w8 2-3 weeks for the zf trans specialist to get back from holidays. thankfully its still under warranty and ive got service history since ive owned it, I think its ex pursuit. theres a few holes drilled in the engine bay and in the passengers side footwell. I feel for ya mate, but hopefully the guys at ford will help u out