Final Word On Centre Muffler

[QikSmurf]

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner.....been on holidays.

The sound is excellent at ALL speeds. At cruising speeds the noise is actually quieter than standard....no question........NO DRONE. The note now is heaps better. SWMBO agrees totally. Let me tell you, if my wife can be converted ANYONE can.

Best of all is the economy. Initally I used this as an excuse to get it done. All bulls*it aside, it definitely gets better fuel economy. When I fiiled the tank before, the Km remaining would only ever get to around 480. Now, with even more spirited driving, it showd 510 and last time 523

[Spool]

  plonky said:

I hate to be a party pooper but the removal of the muffler without replacing it with another muffler is illegal.  In the EPA regs there is a section which deals with (amongst others) ram pod style filters and externally venting blow off valves, and it also mandates that the exhaust system MUST have the same number of mufflers/resonators that is on the car when it is manufactured.

I'm all for modifying the car, cheap power increases etc, but don't say you weren't warned when some knucklehead in an XR6Turbo, driving around being an idiot (obviously not someone on this Forum) gets his modified car examined by the Police/RTA/EPA and the centre muffler modification is found.

The EPA guys will send out an information sheet to the HWP advising what types of cars to look at and what type of mods are illegal. 

When this happens blame the idiot in an XR6Turbo who has been playing up in the car and brought himself and the modifications under notice.  This means that it is going to affect the good guys who just want a bit more power and use it responsibly.

D*ckheads and Ramraiders don't only drive Jap grey imports and GTR'S WRX'S etc etc.  The cult car of the new century will be their flavour of the month soon too!

You may gleefully choose to be shackled and dominated by our draconian road rules but drivers who refuse to dont need your garbage.

Removing a muffler is a minor infraction but your going on as if it was worse than hitting Nos down a sidestreet.

Muffler removal is not the domain of the "Dickhead" as you ignorantly state.

Its a smart and proffitable move infact.

Ive never driven a car that's had a complient exhaust system.

For 5 years I drove a VL turbo with straight through exhaust,no mufflers only a cat converter.

I hooned around with it as well and did I get caught?

Yes I got caught ONCE.

Thanks to freakishly bad luck on the way to work one morning, I ended up driving infront of a patrol car who happened to have an epa inspector with him and testing equipment.

I got done 300 bucks but after I cleared the defect I took the muffler back off again.

Why?

Because I understand that the chances of getting defected are extremely slim and im willing to take that chance rather than drive under the exaggerated umbrella of fear and conformatism that you do.

Simply put,the odds of getting busted for a missing muffler are extremley low.

The reward is worth the risk.

The XR6T does not attraction anyway,its not a hoon car and wont be for years so unless you just happen to give it a bootfull right infront of a cop you would be pretty immune to any hassles.

You seem to be unaware that if a cop wants to defect you HE WILL regardless of what your driving.

Ive seen cars done for the most trivial violations,that ive realized that if you want to be totally immune then you shouldnt bother backing out of your driveway.

If you want to enjoy a performance car you have to take some calculated risks and gambles in my opinion.

You just need to know how far to step and where.

[Guest]

Hey Spool ,just for your info, plonky is a copper and he is on our side so to speak. If you read his post again knowing this you will see he is giving us all here a bit of friendly advise,some common sense wich aint very common these days. In other words hes just letting us know what gives out there. On ya plonky.

[Redhawk]

  Spool said:

For 5 years I drove a VL turbo with straight through exhaust,no mufflers only a cat converter.

I hooned around with it as well and did I get caught?

SEE!..........

Conclusive proof, driving Commadores is hazardous to your mental health. :D

Must be from all the ...untzz, untzz, untzz coming from the sound system. :lol:

Spool ol son, read the contents of the posts before ignighting flame-thrower.

[Spool]

  vik351 said:

Hey Spool ,just for your info, plonky is a copper and he is on our side so to speak. If you read his post again knowing this you will see he is giving us all here a bit of friendly advise,some common sense wich aint very common these days. In other words hes just letting us know what gives out there. On ya plonky.

Friendly advice?

More like giving us a lecture.

I didnt know hes a cop but I guess that explains it.

[Guest]

Wouldnt ya rather have cops like that?

[Guest Mac_Dude]

  Spool said:

More like giving us a lecture.

I didnt know hes a cop but I guess that explains it.

Well I thought it was good advice

[XR6TK1W1]

  Spool said:

  vik351 said:

Hey Spool ,just for your info, plonky is a copper and he is on our side so to speak. If you read his post again knowing this you will see he is giving us all here a bit of friendly advise,some common sense wich aint very common these days. In other words hes just letting us know what gives out there. On ya plonky.

Friendly advice?

More like giving us a lecture.

I didnt know hes a cop but I guess that explains it.

Theres always one Ex Expensive Daewoo driver that can't seem to loose his pen*s envy. Knowledge is power, therefore when an expert ( Officer of the law ) gives you a different perspective on things, shut your mouth take it in and learn. I know your new but sheeeesh, lighten up and I don't mean ya back tyres.

[1axr]

spool welcome to the forum.

firstly, it has been said already, learn to keep the mouth shut and take in the information from an expert and if you only remember a part of what was passed on you will be a smarter person.

also learn to tell the difference between a lecture and good advice.

if you carry on to the cops on the street like that you will garantee a defect notice for your self.

I have never met plonky, but by reading a lot of his posts I can tell that he has a great interest in performance vehicles and this forum.

[Guest 56Mainline]

Plonky's just informing all on this forum re the law in connection with what is being done or being proposed to be done, by those on this forum....

Now that you are informed, you may then make your own judgement whether to modify or not....

If you choose to remove the centre muffler, etc etc, at least you know up front what risks you may be taking.

Spool, as you stated, you didn't realise that Plonky was a good 'ol boy!

Suggest that before ANYONE reaches for a harpoon with explosive tip, that they perhaps ask for a few answers to any questions that they may have regarding something that's been posted.

Cheers....