oldskool Member 144 Member For: 19y 3m 4d Posted 19/05/09 10:15 PM Share Posted 19/05/09 10:15 PM Heard on the abc that barack obama is signing legislation that by 2016 all new cars produced in the US will have to meet new emissions tests and meet a new petrol consumption of 15km to one litre. That is under 7litres per 100km.The idea is to lower the consumption of oil which obviously in not infinite. Chances are many years after Australia will follow suit (as we usually do with the US).I think it is a probably a good idea, something has to be done, the oil stocks will not last for ever but will this mean the end of the performance car? Even worse if it is adopted in Aus in the future (yes I know it could be at least 10-15 years away) could it mean the end of Australian built cars?Will people just import from other countries who do not introduce such a policy to to get performance cars?Can serious performance be had from hybrid cars? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/57801-a-sign-of-the-times/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang3 12" member Donating Members 2,107 Member For: 19y 10m 25d Location: Perth WA Posted 19/05/09 11:00 PM Share Posted 19/05/09 11:00 PM I reckon there is the potential for electric cars to become mainstream and have competitive performance and it will be a good thing as electricity is cheap and easy and clean - clean for the end user anyway not at the coal-fired generators etc.. I also think govt's round the world will turn to nuclear power stations as the technology matures and its positive attributes outweigh the negatives - will probably still be a charged debate between pro-nuke and the greenies though... but overall nuclear power stations will drop the cost of electricity IMO..I'm sure there will be resistance from the hardcore petrol heads with no capacitance for reasoning but I know if could buy a cheap, fast decent looking sparky car in the current market that was competitive with a turbo I'd defo consider it..I read somewhere that electric motors produce shedloads of torque from like 1rpm and are fairly linear in its delivery - this would be good for strip and circuit work IMOim sure there are other good reasons I've ohmitted Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/57801-a-sign-of-the-times/#findComment-878587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ras351 Member 219 Member For: 17y 1m 14d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 19/05/09 11:17 PM Share Posted 19/05/09 11:17 PM nang3 said: ohmittedNice pun Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/57801-a-sign-of-the-times/#findComment-878592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosti NOT THERE!... THERE! Member 852 Member For: 17y 26d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 20/05/09 01:02 AM Share Posted 20/05/09 01:02 AM Meh, when it all goes down, I'll be on the preorder list for one of these badboys.If it does a 7.82s 1/4, I don't care what it runs on Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/57801-a-sign-of-the-times/#findComment-878621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstor Member 611 Member For: 16y 2m 20d Posted 20/05/09 11:32 AM Share Posted 20/05/09 11:32 AM Turbo Diesels. Latest Street Machine mag has a guy running a 6.6L twin turbo diesel V8 that puts out 900hp and apparently gets 32mpg, which is roughly 12km per litre. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/57801-a-sign-of-the-times/#findComment-878947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR6 Member 1,460 Member For: 22y 22d Location: Geelong Victoria Posted 22/05/09 09:07 AM Share Posted 22/05/09 09:07 AM The US has had Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards for years now. They average the economy across the whole range, so if they make plenty of low consumption vehicles they can still make gas guzzlers and performance cars. With Ford US making the Fiesta and new Focus later this year and next year, along with a range of hybrids, it will help bring the numbers down so they can continue to sell F series and V8 Mustangs. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/57801-a-sign-of-the-times/#findComment-880057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancidpunx Brisbanes Resident Detailer Donating Members 950 Member For: 16y 3m 28d Gender: Male Location: In my Cabin Outside Brisbane. Posted 24/05/09 03:55 AM Share Posted 24/05/09 03:55 AM Hydrogen cars look to have alot of potential and no need to recharge them. Just pull into a servo and fill her up like normal just using pressurized hydrogen. As for the 2016 deadline, the UAE will be out of oil by then, hence their building boom to transform there economy from natural resources to a top tourist destination. Petrol prices by then would also be huge. Maybe something that only the rich can afford for a commute to work. The technology is there for a few ideas to replace petrol as a fuel just which one makes it as the mainstream. Kinda like the battle between Blueray and HD-DVD in the last 2 years. I big thing to remember is that oil is not just used as a fuel but by products all around you, these will also run out, plastics, waxes, soaps etc. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/57801-a-sign-of-the-times/#findComment-880613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB4C Member 328 Member For: 16y 4m 4d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 24/05/09 06:08 AM Share Posted 24/05/09 06:08 AM (edited) The weakest link in electric/hybrid vehicles is the battery. It's very heavy and has no where near the energy density of petrol, also batteries will need replacing after say ... 8 years. But despite the drawbacks, it is quite practical. Performance hybrids are rare, but the Lexus 450h qualifies. 0-60mph in 5.5s ; 22 mpg ; weight = 1.9T (batteries are heavy) Edited 24/05/09 06:09 AM by NB4C Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/57801-a-sign-of-the-times/#findComment-880644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRDOSE BIGRED Donating Members 1,410 Member For: 18y 1m 25d Gender: Male Location: Sth East Melb Posted 24/05/09 07:26 AM Share Posted 24/05/09 07:26 AM oh....makes my 16.7l/100km look pretty sh*thouse hahaha Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/57801-a-sign-of-the-times/#findComment-880666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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