tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 9m 15d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 19/08/09 10:12 PM Share Posted 19/08/09 10:12 PM What dealer are you going to? There's another thread running boasting about how great Southern Cross Ford are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduced Need more power. Now taking donations. Member 753 Member For: 15y 11m 13d Gender: Male Posted 19/08/09 10:33 PM Share Posted 19/08/09 10:33 PM GMH8R - If you are in Toowoomba, book it in to Southern Cross Ford with Ian McLean ONLY. His team of guys are brilliant. They sorted a mile of problems for me.But dont go in mad, complaining and swearing, if you act like an idiot, they will treat you like one. Courtesy works both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMH8R Donating Members 110 Member For: 16y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: Mt Isa Posted 22/08/09 08:16 AM Share Posted 22/08/09 08:16 AM Yeah it's the last thing I should do. Southern cross are good as they have been more than happy to take my ute in and have a look. I am frustrated though that it has been in the ford workshop 4 times to have the drivers seat fixed and it still isn't done properly. And when I take it in I get asked repeatedly if I have done anything to it. I say no but they keep asking are you sure ect. I got annoyed with that. Sorry to have been misleading in any way. I did ask the warranty manager about warranty once mods are done and he was more than helpful with any questions I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coby38 Inactive Members 1 Member For: 15y 4m 12d Posted 28/09/09 07:36 AM Share Posted 28/09/09 07:36 AM hey guys I have just buggered my fourth tail shaft and every time it has been when I was travelling im starting to get over it ford just keep replacing it and say its fixed but it still isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFGSR Member 514 Member For: 19y 11m 29d Posted 28/09/09 10:00 AM Share Posted 28/09/09 10:00 AM I too just popped my 3rd tailshaft. First was the centre CV, then centre bearing and now rear CV.Only other options are custom or buy a different car. One of FGs "great" achievements...not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arm79 Donating Members 214 Member For: 15y 11m 14d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 28/09/09 12:56 PM Share Posted 28/09/09 12:56 PM (edited) After having to a chat a few months back to one of the guys who did durability testing on the ute drivelines at the proving grounds, I was surprised to hear about Fords lack of brains regarding this issue. Exploding tailshaft joints was apparently a common almost daily event on the turbos, particularly the manuals, during testing.His comment was its "like the BA/BF diff bush problem times 5".His understanding of the actual problem is because of a weaker design in the rear end itself, the nose of the diff can tilt excessively, putting strain on the CV's in the tailshaft, as they aren't designed to cope with the sorts of angles the driveline ends up with.Fords answer to the problem was attempting a torque limiting in first gear, and hope it didn't come back and bite them in the ass. Looks like it has.Also beware that testing also showed the ability of the diffs to actually twist the leafs into an S-shape, and this was the main reason for programming in the torque limiting.Good luck in sorting it out with Ford! Edited 28/09/09 12:57 PM by arm79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFXR8UTE Inactive Members 1 Member For: 15y 4m 12d Posted 06/01/10 05:39 PM Share Posted 06/01/10 05:39 PM Does anyone know if the tailshaft problem has been fixed by the factory yet?My 2010 plated XR8 is to be delivered at the end of this month and I believe prevention to be much better than cure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockafellqeinstien Member 325 Member For: 16y 6m 17d Posted 19/01/10 03:29 AM Share Posted 19/01/10 03:29 AM After having to a chat a few months back to one of the guys who did durability testing on the ute drivelines at the proving grounds, I was surprised to hear about Fords lack of brains regarding this issue. Exploding tailshaft joints was apparently a common almost daily event on the turbos, particularly the manuals, during testing.His comment was its "like the BA/BF diff bush problem times 5".His understanding of the actual problem is because of a weaker design in the rear end itself, the nose of the diff can tilt excessively, putting strain on the CV's in the tailshaft, as they aren't designed to cope with the sorts of angles the driveline ends up with.Fords answer to the problem was attempting a torque limiting in first gear, and hope it didn't come back and bite them in the ass. Looks like it has.Also beware that testing also showed the ability of the diffs to actually twist the leafs into an S-shape, and this was the main reason for programming in the torque limiting.Good luck in sorting it out with Ford!with my new found torque my leafs must go from an S to a figure eight. You can feel there is some weird stuff going on back there. I wont be putting bigger tyres on the back any time soon - I feel that might be the straw that broke the cammels back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduced Need more power. Now taking donations. Member 753 Member For: 15y 11m 13d Gender: Male Posted 19/01/10 03:39 AM Share Posted 19/01/10 03:39 AM I reckon if someone like Mal Wood could engineer a new tailshaft design that wouldnt break, they would sell thousands of them. You could then sell the design to Ford... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarKer Member 174 Member For: 15y 4m 21d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 19/01/10 07:52 AM Share Posted 19/01/10 07:52 AM The design is not the problem, I am sure Ford has some very smart engineers working for them, but they have a major constraint and that is a budget.. I don't the majority of customers are going to accept another grand on top for a failproof tailshaft..Anyway, Ford have a sh*tload of dud tailshafts now.. have to get rid of them somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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