Experiences With The Police

[Velvet Glove]

VG ..... I was having some fun

..... I'm glad there is a standard procedure and we all get treated like license numbers and expiry dates (just kidding I think)

... but the way it is performed can be sometimes very comical :lol:

officer has radar reading, you are given a chance to look at it ....... why ???? really, I'd like to know why !!!

to check to see if the cop is lying ???? I think it is dumb :o

as far as being told their equipment is in perfect working order and in the same breath they spell out your rights of appeal ..... I think that is a cheek and it is dumb

maybe they could also add that in Mexico no-one gets off in court ... no-one

cheers

For starters many people will dispute the speed, depite the fact that its a laser or a radar, so showing them shuts them up. When you ping them in heavy traffic showing them and allowing them to see how it works shows them you couldnt possibly have gotten it wrong. They pay the fine and everything is fine. When they do anything but pay the fine its additional unnecessary paperwork for us.

Many people doubt everything we say and I have lost count of the number of not guilty pleas I have avoided by showing people the speed. How would you feel if you were accused of a speed, you didnt think you were going that fast, and a copper refused to show it to you.

Spelling out your rights of appeal, well that's just standard procedure these days for evrything from traffic tickets to council decisions to workplace issues. Its hardly cheeky and, again, saves us annoying paperwork when somebody writes a letter disputing the TIN to someone tother than what they should have.

I know you're only trying to have some fun, but saying something is stupid when you aren;t aware of the full facts doesnt help. Imagine if you were in busy traffic and a copper picked you out as doing 83 when you thought you were going the same as everyone else. He/she solves the problem by showing you the speed and availing you of your rights of appeal.

Maybe no-one gets off in Vic, but that's not the case in the rest of Australia. Stats show here that about 95% of TINs are successful (I.e. get paid or result in a court win for the Police). Of that well over 90% just get paid without a second thought. Lets say, at best 90% of people just pay the TIN, that means that a lot of people do get off, where I come from......but dont get me started on magistrates

[Slymeat]

Well last time I was pulled over for and RBT the officer directing traffic had the light stick and looked more like he was doing the hokey pokey than directing traffic!

well I was very confused no officer ready and waiting to breath test me he was on his own there were also no other people there so pulled up next to him on the left hand side I thought this was prudent

I wind down the window and he starts in to me I didnt follow his instructions I should have pulled up on the right hand side of the officer in the ncoming lane WTF

so he was quite sure that he had bagged himself a DUI and to his surprise NIL so the officer started checking my car and aksed why the rego sticker was not on the windscreen

I replied because its on the rear passenger door (I had a four door laser at the time)

any way checked the sticker and he was kinda pissed of that hadn't got his scalp

I then asked if he would like to see the current registration sticker which was in the glove box, the one on the car was two months out of date He kindly declined and asked me to go now!

I have the utmost respect for the police Damn hard job but some are just (I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY TRIGGERHAPPY) !!!!! or far to keen to cook and book before they look

Chris probably not a good idea to point out to him that you were displaying an expired label, that was your one true offence. He must have been slow to miss that one.

[Slymeat]

I do shift work and have done for the last 7 year now.

On enight on the way home form work, 4am. I was driving like I normally do. LIke a bloody idiot but legal. Tkaing a round about at the full capacity of the car, you can get the picture.

So this night I am turning from nuwara road onto the entrance to the m5. Th ecops where coming the other way. They did a quick turn around hte round about and pull me over. Guns drawn and aimed at me. One at the back left corner and the other stood beside the drive side rear door. Order me to throw my keys out of the car. Then my licence and what I was doing.

Explained that I was driving home. They told me I was driving the car liek I had Stolen it . To this I reply I didnt think that I was illegal to go around a roundabout at that speed as I wasnt going over the posted 60km limit. After a while of talking and stuff the gave me back my keys and I was off.

The most annoying part to me till this day is that Once they knew who I was adn that the car was in fact not stolen. They still treated me Like I had stolen it. The guy never stepped up to me window adn the other one never left teh back of the car with his gun drawn. WTF!

OK be catious but then be friendly.

Wayne

Although it is not specifically illeagal to go around a roundabout at the speed limit it is not pudent. If you were to need to brake in an emergency, your car would most likely act more violantly than if you were going in a straight line. I once stopped a gentleman in his mx5, he went around a 90 degree corner at 70 km/hr which was the posted speed limit. When I spoke with him he said, that it was a sportscar and that he dosn't speed, he just dosn't slow down. I thought that yes it's not an offence specifically if it was we would need to carry around a dictionary of offences. But the fact that a reasonable and prudent person wouldn't drive in such a manner made me thick that he was acting negligently. I then promptly issued him a ticket for negligent driving and told him that he should slow down from now on. Up until this stage he had argued with me all the way but when I told him that he could elect to go to court he said he didn't fight the police, I wish that was true for all of them. To add to that all roads have a level of maximum grip at any particular time and a maximum speed if you exceed that speed the rear wheels will overtake the front wheels and the vehicle will yaw out of control and you will not be able to gain control until speed is reduced this will not give you any time to react on a roundabout. It is fun to drive our cars but not when it impacts on other road users. This is not supposed to be a downer just a heads up, if you drive your car like you stole it you have to expect to contribute to government involuntarily.

[Chris xr6]

Well last time I was pulled over for and RBT the officer directing traffic had the light stick and looked more like he was doing the hokey pokey than directing traffic!

well I was very confused no officer ready and waiting to breath test me he was on his own there were also no other people there so pulled up next to him on the left hand side I thought this was prudent

I wind down the window and he starts in to me I didnt follow his instructions I should have pulled up on the right hand side of the officer in the ncoming lane WTF

so he was quite sure that he had bagged himself a DUI and to his surprise NIL so the officer started checking my car and aksed why the rego sticker was not on the windscreen

I replied because its on the rear passenger door (I had a four door laser at the time)

any way checked the sticker and he was kinda pissed of that hadn't got his scalp

I then asked if he would like to see the current registration sticker which was in the glove box, the one on the car was two months out of date He kindly declined and asked me to go now!

I have the utmost respect for the police Damn hard job but some are just (I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY TRIGGERHAPPY) !!!!! or far to keen to cook and book before they look

Chris probably not a good idea to point out to him that you were displaying an expired label, that was your one true offence. He must have been slow to miss that one.

Yeh I know I really just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting a ticket in the mail!

[Slymeat]

I do shift work and have done for the last 7 year now.

On enight on the way home form work, 4am. I was driving like I normally do. LIke a bloody idiot but legal. Tkaing a round about at the full capacity of the car, you can get the picture.

So this night I am turning from nuwara road onto the entrance to the m5. Th ecops where coming the other way. They did a quick turn around hte round about and pull me over. Guns drawn and aimed at me. One at the back left corner and the other stood beside the drive side rear door. Order me to throw my keys out of the car. Then my licence and what I was doing.

Explained that I was driving home. They told me I was driving the car liek I had Stolen it  . To this I reply I didnt think that I was illegal to go around a roundabout at that speed as I wasnt going over the posted 60km limit. After a while of talking and stuff the gave me back my keys and I was off.

The most annoying part to me till this day is that Once they knew who I was adn that the car was in fact not stolen. They still treated me Like I had stolen it. The guy never stepped up to me window adn the other one never left teh back of the car with his gun drawn. WTF!

OK be catious but then be friendly.

Wayne

Although it is not specifically illeagal to go around a roundabout at the speed limit it is not pudent. If you were to need to brake in an emergency, your car would most likely act more violantly than if you were going in a straight line. I once stopped a gentleman in his mx5, he went around a 90 degree corner at 70 km/hr which was the posted speed limit. When I spoke with him he said, that it was a sportscar and that he dosn't speed, he just dosn't slow down. I thought that yes it's not an offence specifically if it was we would need to carry around a dictionary of offences. But the fact that a reasonable and prudent person wouldn't drive in such a manner made me thick that he was acting negligently. I then promptly issued him a ticket for negligent driving and told him that he should slow down from now on. Up until this stage he had argued with me all the way but when I told him that he could elect to go to court he said he didn't fight the police, I wish that was true for all of them. To add to that all roads have a level of maximum grip at any particular time and a maximum speed if you exceed that speed the rear wheels will overtake the front wheels and the vehicle will yaw out of control and you will not be able to gain control until speed is reduced this will not give you any time to react on a roundabout. It is fun to drive our cars but not when it impacts on other road users. This is not supposed to be a downer just a heads up, if you drive your car like you stole it you have to expect to contribute to government involuntarily.

I think we all have come across good and bad police. I have personally worked with both, some can be over the top. We all have to deal with what can be the dregs of society and sometimes that rubs off. I believe that its better to be safe than sorry, and a caution can be more benifical than a ticket. That said imagine if you received the same scrutiny from the public in your job.

[Chris xr6]

I do shift work and have done for the last 7 year now.

On enight on the way home form work, 4am. I was driving like I normally do. LIke a bloody idiot but legal. Tkaing a round about at the full capacity of the car, you can get the picture.

So this night I am turning from nuwara road onto the entrance to the m5. Th ecops where coming the other way. They did a quick turn around hte round about and pull me over. Guns drawn and aimed at me. One at the back left corner and the other stood beside the drive side rear door. Order me to throw my keys out of the car. Then my licence and what I was doing.

Explained that I was driving home. They told me I was driving the car liek I had Stolen it  . To this I reply I didnt think that I was illegal to go around a roundabout at that speed as I wasnt going over the posted 60km limit. After a while of talking and stuff the gave me back my keys and I was off.

The most annoying part to me till this day is that Once they knew who I was adn that the car was in fact not stolen. They still treated me Like I had stolen it. The guy never stepped up to me window adn the other one never left teh back of the car with his gun drawn. WTF!

OK be catious but then be friendly.

Wayne

Although it is not specifically illeagal to go around a roundabout at the speed limit it is not pudent. If you were to need to brake in an emergency, your car would most likely act more violantly than if you were going in a straight line. I once stopped a gentleman in his mx5, he went around a 90 degree corner at 70 km/hr which was the posted speed limit. When I spoke with him he said, that it was a sportscar and that he dosn't speed, he just dosn't slow down. I thought that yes it's not an offence specifically if it was we would need to carry around a dictionary of offences. But the fact that a reasonable and prudent person wouldn't drive in such a manner made me thick that he was acting negligently. I then promptly issued him a ticket for negligent driving and told him that he should slow down from now on. Up until this stage he had argued with me all the way but when I told him that he could elect to go to court he said he didn't fight the police, I wish that was true for all of them. To add to that all roads have a level of maximum grip at any particular time and a maximum speed if you exceed that speed the rear wheels will overtake the front wheels and the vehicle will yaw out of control and you will not be able to gain control until speed is reduced this will not give you any time to react on a roundabout. It is fun to drive our cars but not when it impacts on other road users. This is not supposed to be a downer just a heads up, if you drive your car like you stole it you have to expect to contribute to government involuntarily.

I think we all have come across good and bad police. I have personally worked with both, some can be over the top. We all have to deal with what can be the dregs of society and sometimes that rubs off. I believe that its better to be safe than sorry, and a caution can be more benifical than a ticket. That said imagine if you received the same scrutiny from the public in your job.

Sounds like your another man of the constabulary on this site! all I can say is that im glad I dont have the same jod to do as you boys!

[plonky]

Well last time I was pulled over for and RBT the officer directing traffic had the light stick and looked more like he was doing the hokey pokey than directing traffic!

well I was very confused no officer ready and waiting to breath test me he was on his own there were also no other people there so pulled up next to him on the left hand side I thought this was prudent

I wind down the window and he starts in to me I didnt follow his instructions I should have pulled up on the right hand side of the officer in the ncoming lane WTF

so he was quite sure that he had bagged himself a DUI and to his surprise NIL so the officer started checking my car and aksed why the rego sticker was not on the windscreen

I replied because its on the rear passenger door (I had a four door laser at the time)

any way checked the sticker and he was kinda pissed of that hadn't got his scalp

I then asked if he would like to see the current registration sticker which was in the glove box, the one on the car was two months out of date He kindly declined and asked me to go now!

I have the utmost respect for the police Damn hard job but some are just (I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY TRIGGERHAPPY) !!!!! or far to keen to cook and book before they look

Chris probably not a good idea to point out to him that you were displaying an expired label, that was your one true offence. He must have been slow to miss that one.

Yeh I know I really just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting a ticket in the mail!

Must have been a GD's copper as they rarely write out tickets

A good Highway Patrol officer would have given you a $76 dollar reminder to put the label one

I know I do

[Slymeat]

Last night doing RBT pulled over a young bloke asked him if he had had a drink. His reply no thank you. ( Very politly ) I alsmost fell over laughing, then his girlfriend hit him, he couldn't have been more apologetic he really thought I was offering him a drink. Thought about this thread straight away, and had trouble holding up the device.

[KEN 24T]

Do I spy another law-enforcement officer amongst us?

Wish I'd known at the pub after Skirmish ... would have bought you a beer mate.

[Redhawk]

You could suck a golf ball through a garden hose Ken........fair dinkum, as Scotty said, 'I can hear the suction from here!' (In sunny WA!) :lol:

How did the skirmish go???? Do you still look like a psycadellic nightmare from a 60's LSD sampling party???? :lol: