Is It Really Ford Performance ?

[Erko]

I'd like to see a "track pack" option for manuals consisting of uprated springs, rebound adjustable dampers, sway bars, light cast wheels (wider and better offsets), better tyres, alloy hat rotors, better pads and ss lines, rebolstered front seats and a short shift assembly. id buy an F6 with spec like that for sure... HSV did it years ago with the DTS Option and if I had been in the market I would have bought one. I reckon FPV should look at this as a dealer fit option could be done for 10k and would generate some interest I would think.

Edited 16/04/09 04:14 AM by Erko

[Ras351]

I just wish more people bought these types of cars these days so there would be more cash to throw around on developing track options or proper special editions instead of just sticker kits. Supercharged GTs straight from the factory sounds amazing! Im going to start saving now lol.

[SM0KED]

DTS Option and if I had been in the market I would have bought one. I reckon FPV should look at this as a dealer fit option could be done for 10k and would generate some interest I would think.

GT-HO (High Output - Handling Options) would be sweeter still!! But even if that bottom end was just 1 litre larger in capacity a 6.4 or 7.0 Boss would be a real competitor esp with the Quad Cams.

Edited 16/04/09 07:19 AM by SM0KED

[ZAP]

I do not see what the capasity has to do with your point.

The BOSS is 5.4lt and quadcam, makes 315kw in comparison with the LS3 6.2lt pushrod that makes 317kw.

The BOSS is a very tight motor and only frees up over 15,000km, so most car comparisons are done in new or low milage cars.

The 5.4 is a tech motor and the LS3 is a 60yo boat anchor. The whole FPV package craps all over any of the HSV range.

Having looked closely at both FPV and HSV when choosing my GT-E, they are worlds apart.

Power is not everything when it comes to what car is best.

I would not swap my BOSS for a LS3 unless there was a blower on it.

[gezza]

  senna_T said:

Yes, new motor for new emission regs....

Prodrive in the UK never did any mods to our motors, they have always been built here, and will continue to be built here.

I had it mixed up then this isnt the uk prodrive team????

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf...A25726B0005DDC1

[senna_T]

Prodrive help develop the vehicles from an engineering role, however the V8 motor that FPV run now is a bit of a parts bin special - a windsor block from canada, Mustang Cobra R heads from the states and rods, pistons and crank made here - and its all thrown together here in Melbourne.

[Dagabond]

Howd I miss this thread...

A 'performance' company run by bean counters who are too scared to step up to the plate will never produce anything worthy of the mantel....

  Ras351 said:

This could be exciting...

I wouldnt drop your strides and start fappin until you SEE it...

[Venom XR6]

Boy are you going to have egg on your face next year.

[Mist]

  SM0KED said:

Even though the 315 beats it on peak power the flaws of lower capacity are all but exposed during these comparisons.

Yeah but as Zap said there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that the Boss motor needs to be worked in rather more than the LS3 does to develop max power through the revs. The reviews are often done on new engines so that may explain it. NZ Autocar did a comparison that had a GT doing 5.3 or so 0-100 while the R8 they had only managed 5.7 or so I think.

As for the magazines, well who knows, they all seem to give odd reviews with odd performance times occasionally. I did think the Top Gear Aus comparison between the FG F6 and HSV R8 was crap though... the guy launched the F6 like he was a Granny out for a Sunday drive and then bitched about the start. The F6 still killed the R8 over the quarter mile but it was stupid, no one launches from flat idle in a drag!

[HI PSI]

Bring back the Bathurst of old...

Remember the days when manufacturers needed to product 500 cars of that particular model to qualify. When drivers such as Brock sometimes sourced spare parts from the parking lot. These were the days that everyday people has real bragging rights about the cars that they drove.... It is this reason that the very cars are held in such high esteem, let alone value.

The Australian touring cars of today, while exciting. Has lost its way. The heavily modified and engineered cars that run around the track today can hardly be called a Expensive Daewoo or a Ford. The only thing original is the outer shape and this is the real reason for the loss of the Aussie muscle car.

Iam not saying that we scrap the touring cars. Maybe we should have a second Bathurst????? The real Bathurst... And just maybe it would stimuate cars sales and produce much needed job in engineering and automoblie production.

Maybe then we could get some real performance cars... There is nothing like competition to bring out the best in companies....

Just a thought....

Edited 19/04/09 12:33 AM by HI PSI