First Mods Thread!

[lrmcdowell]

looks like ill be forking more money out sooner rather then later haha

[LAZY6]

Hey Everyone,

Since many of the new folk around here all seem to ask, "Where Do I start?" I thought that maybe we could develop a Mods thread to help them all out...

Firstly, BA's and BF's are very Different. You have to realise this when you mod your T, as some cars cannot handle as much as others without costing you big dollars.

BA I - 4/5spd boxes are not very strong and the car has weak internals (Rubbery Valve springs etc...)

BA II - Has the 6 spd manual which can hold lots more power with plate and clutch upgrades. 4 spd auto still hit and miss...

BF I - ZF Auto - great box seen up to about 400rwkw I believe (Dean ) And has 6 spd Manual. Internal still not that flash

BF II - Same Gearboxes but with a Typhoon Bottom end. Better Springs, Conrods, etc... (After 06/06 Build Date)

FG - I am unsure exactly of how the FG's stack up, But I believe the stock turbo is limited to about 300rwkw, which some have acheived already.

Now to the mods;

Cold air Intake - Best bet here is to get the F6 Typhoon second snorkel in the BA/BF range, and to go for the XR8 additional snorkle in the FG range. Both Cheap upgrades, with the BA/BF CAI costing about $80 and giving up to 11rwkw.

Panel filters and the like will only give very small, if any, gains in power. PODs off the turbo are a different matter though.

Exhaust - Getting the car to breathe better will open up lots more power. The stock system is quite restictive. If you don't want to go for a new full system, get a high-flow cat. This wll give greater power potential and allow the car to breathe.

Also some members remove the centre muffler for a louder note. NB This will not give an increase in power (Marginal at best) Should be about $400

Custom Flash tune and Flash box. This is where you will get your power. Do all the mods you need to first, as everytime something changes, you have to get a retune. Should be about $1,500 for the box and a tune.

This will cost you $2,000 and should give about 240rwkw. The injectors will be the limiting factor here.

If you feel like going further;

BA I and I, possibly BF I you will require new valve springs. A great upgrade that will tighten everything up. Costs about $900 for supply and fitting, but is a must in the BA's.

Bigger injectors - 60lb Siemens Dekkas cost about $600 to have installed.

Fuel Pump - $400 to keep up with the bigger injectors

You'd probably be wanting a decent intercooler about now as well. Rap1d/PW and out site sponsors do some great kits starting at about $1,000 Includes bigger piping, better IC etc. A great upgrade.

You may also want a transmission oil cooler to prolong the life of your Gearbox. It is strongly advised to have one for your 4 spd auto. $200

JUST to CLARIFY! The 4 speed box has been known to die at 180rwkw (Stock) but has also held over 300rwkw consistently. As stated earlier, they are very hit and miss, and if you plan on getting big power, you will more than likley be up for a rebuild/replacement.

You probably want to run full premium fluids through the car as well with this sort of power.

Exhaust will limit you here, so either a bigger dump, or just go with a full new system ($2,000 approx)

Conservatively, this should give in the area of 320rwkw - 360rwkw I believe. That's another $4,200 on top (Approx $6,200) In a phoon, you may be way higher, or way lower in a BA. Depends on your tuner/The tune and the car.

From Here;

Wastegate/Actuator mods and a flapper mod would be a good bet. (Possibly even earlier in the piece)

Full Upgrade piping/IC/CAI Kit

Possibly upgrading the engine Internals, etc...

Probably a Decent Surge Tankas well.

I'm a little hazy from here on, so you'll have to forgive my lack of knowledge in the 400rwkw club.

It's also important to make sure that with you 300rwkw of tyre shredding engine power that you take into account stopping power. Iconic Bionic said, "Whats the use of having all that power if you can't stop?" And that is very very true.

You also need to take into account;

Brakes - Discs/rotors/pads etc

Suspension - If you can't go round a corner properly, whats the point in having 300rwkw?

Have Quality tyres - Tyres are the only thing between you and the road, and the tiny surface actually in contact with the ground at any given time, is all you have to stop with. Please make sure you use a quality tyre.

Have your car serviced at the correct intervals - when you put so much money into a car, it pays to have it looked after.

Oil changes - Between ever 5,000 and 10,000km's (Many people like to use 7,500km) you must change your oil, clean the oil screens and use a quality product! Turbo's depend on the quality of the oil, so don't skimp on it.

Fluids - Also use a premium coolant, brake fluid, power steering fluids and gearbox fluids at all times.

Please don't take any of this as being set-in stone. there are numerous paths to take when modding. All I wanted was to give an example of a simple $2,000 upgrade and then another including more adventerous mods. As you can see my car is only at 240rwkw, so if I'm off with the prices/Power gains/Power levels, then I apologise, but I know someone will help me out

These mods can also be done in different orders as well, so don't take this as gospel.

Well I hope that helps everyone out a little, and please add anything that you think will be of help.

Good luck and all the best

Cheers and welcome,

Dan

This is really helpful for newbies like me! Cheers

[spoken]

would this be a good first mod on a stock 09 fg ?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FORD-X3-FLASH-TUNER-60lb-DEKA-INJECTORS-BA-BF-FG-XR6T-Turbo-XR8-FPV-GT-GTP-F6-/150818672100?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item231d7e4de4

FORD X3 FLASH TUNER + 60lb DEKA INJECTORS

would I get more power and better fuel

[juniowhat1]

Hi there. not sure if anyone will respond.

I know nothing about cars. and haven't had the ability to get the top of the range cars.I just got a ford falcon 2003 xr6 turbo. Since my separation 6 years ago I haven't been able to get a car till now. second hand but.best car I could get. finally I can take pride in a car.

So I was thinkin. air intake and exhaust job. Im thinking that enough to make me happy. will it make my car more furlough effecient too?

[Never had any say Panda]

Doubtful it'd make it much more fuel efficient without a tune.. However tuning = more power which means you'll probably stamp your right foot more often which will chew more fuel..

[Henz]

would this be a good first mod on a stock 09 fg ?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FORD-X3-FLASH-TUNER-60lb-DEKA-INJECTORS-BA-BF-FG-XR6T-Turbo-XR8-FPV-GT-GTP-F6-/150818672100?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item231d7e4de4

FORD X3 FLASH TUNER + 60lb DEKA INJECTORS

would I get more power and better fuel

Get a proper custom tune! Only a couple of hundred $$ more. And it will get you both power and economy. Generic tunes are bad news

95% of the time.

[juniowhat1]

Fuel that word was suppose to be.

[juniowhat1]

Im very sorry to sound silly. Im keen to learn and since the ex made it hard financially for me to get a more up to date car.

Does one have to get their own tuner? Can you not just go to a workshop and they do it for a fraction of the cost? Im in Brisbane, ipswich to be exact.

[spoken]

Get a proper custom tune! Only a couple of hundred $$ more. And it will get you both power and economy. Generic tunes are bad news

95% of the time.

okay..gotta find a decent place here in sydney

[juniowhat1]

Just rang up dyno tune performance in redcliffe Brissy. they recon 1500 all up for a tune and your own machine. They day ebay is a bit hit and miss with tuners.

Im wondering if I should fork out for it:-( its lot of money and worried to use the ones of ebay and tune it and get it wrong myself.

Big decision to make.