In Need Of Opinions - Fg Xr6t Or.. ?

[Arkayne]

Couldn't edit my post for some reason.. Just noticed there's a third page, so in question of JA2473, I guess that's true - I'll take the shift alert off my list then - what about gauges for the FGT?

Also, is it true you can get 300+RWKW from something as little as a tune? How much speed would you get out of that?

[Benny]

My car has made the 300rwkw with just a custom tune and injectors. That cost me approx $2400 at Tunehouse about 6 months ago.

Benny

[NB4C]

  Arkayne said:

I'm looking for some street fun, and pretty much off-the-line speed. Not much into running it in a 1/4 mile - not my interest.

If quarter mile times aren't what you're about, then there's no need for the F6 or a modded XR6T. The stock XR6T can generate about 0.7Gs of acceleration on take off. Good enough for street thrashing considering the Draconian speed laws that are in place. Spend 47K on the T and 20K for a nice holiday and make the missus forget about your big spend.

Edited 02/04/09 10:06 AM by NB4C

[Arkayne]

You know that this sounds exactly what I should do, but being young and having a bit of cash saved, I'd rather get something I'd like - even minimum. If the car can produce 300+RWKW with basic mods, I'd rather that. Spend a little of money on making it sound better, a few wankfactor features and some mags and that will do me for the next few years. I'm not big at spending money, so this will be my "little project" and is something I've wanted for a while.

So I guess I'll wait and hear from CV Performance and go from there. Anyone know if getting those FPV mags will be much of an issue (the ones that merge the spokes and in the centre - chrome ones with a bit of black outline).

Edit: Benny, that's awesome to know. I didn't know it only required a little bit of mods to get that done. Can I ask what's the engine KWs? And how fast does it go with 300RWKW? In terms of complete stop to 100km/h?

Cheers again for the replies.

Any further information is appreciated.

Edited 02/04/09 10:43 AM by Arkayne
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[PHANTMXR6]

General rule of thumb or average is add 20% to rwkW to get flywheel power level and vice versafor rwkW figure if you know the flywheel rating.

If Benny's car is an auto, which I think it is, it should achieve 0-100km/hr in under 5 seconds with good tyres.

No point having a gazillion kilowatts if you can't put it to the ground.

Keep looking around the forum mate and you'll pick up so much info.

[NVT]

Arkayne...

I think you have pretty much answered your own question with one of your last posts...

I think it's safe to say that you should get a FG Turbo. Put a few mods on it and she'll fly.

I don't know how familiar you are with performance cars, but 300rwkw will put you in the top 10% of all cars on the road - probably higher. There will not be many vehicles that could beat you. To put it into terms everyone can understand;

AN FG WITH 300RWKW WILL BE F*CKING FAST! It will be like lightning mate - you won't know what has hit you...

Even a BA/BF with 300rwkw is lightning fast...

Just coz you have saved up money, don't blow it all on rwkw you can't use. Like PHNTM said, "No point having a gazillion kilowatts if you can't put it to the ground" You'll be all over the shop at 300rwkw with anything less than premium tyres, and not even they'll keep you on the road at times... Don't even ask about her in the wet...uuuurgh...

I think you need to drive a stock FGT and then jump in a modded BF that someone off the forums owns. You'll see what a remarkable differenece there is.

And just remember - These cars can reach license losing speed so fast it will make your head spin, so be very very wary of that. It only takes one impulsive flogging, that lasts 10 seconds, and the next thing you know, your car and license are gone.

All the best mate,

Dan

Edited 02/04/09 01:56 PM by NVT

[Benny]

Arkayne,

I think what NVT and PHANTMXR6 has said is pretty much on the money.

My car has been tuned very strong quite early with all 733nm arriving at 2700rpm. With the smaller turbo on the FG this makes one impressive car that can leave behind BA/BF's with more power up to around 130KPH. The car struggles for traction badly in 1st and depending on ambient temps 2nd gear also. As what has already been said there is no point in making huge kw when you can't get it to the ground so I wont be chasing too much more. My next mod will be intercooler and exhaust mod to reach the max turbo hp and then that will be it for this car.

Not sure on 0-100 times as I haven't run the car on my G-Tech yet but I would assume it would be under 5 sec.

I think for around $5k you could have injectors, intercooler, exhaust mod and tune and be making the max turbo hp of approx 320rwkw. This will be plenty to have lots of fun with. Spend any left over money on suspension, brakes and fluid coolers like I have to make to car more reliable.

Benny

Edited 03/04/09 01:39 AM by Benny

[nang3]

  NVT said:

*snip*

It only takes one impulsive flogging, that lasts 10 seconds, and the next thing you know, your car and license are gone.

after a drive of an auto FG T and G6ET yesterday, 10 seconds is a very conservative estimate haha.. a quick floor at 80kph and it felt like it took 2 seconds to get to about 150kph very VERY easily !!!!!!!! which is a good thing ROFL

Edited 03/04/09 02:10 AM by nang3

[djkice]

dude you dont need extractors?

if you push any power more than stock it will void warranty even if you do just tune and revert back to stock.

if you dont want to risk warranty dont even contimplate mods.

[NVT]

^^ hahahaha yeah I know nang. 10 seconds is a long time to boot these cars

Well if you can get to 100 in under 5 secs in a modded T, then maybe I should make it 5 seconds? hahahaha

Oh, and Arkayne,

I'm used to having V8's, and yes - extractors were among the first mods you'd do, but they are not as necessary for a Turbo. Not many people with 300rwkw have a set mate. If I were you I wouldn't worry.

Just get the Phoon CAI, Maybe a larger IC and piping, and a large exhaust; That will allow the car to breathe plenty

listen to BENNY mate. he has done what you are about to do. 320rwkw is the max for the Turbo, so if I were you, I'd tune 300rwkw to about 310 rwkw. You don't want it to run at max all the time - That's when you break things and it will cost you big time.

5K to do the mods

1.5K - 2K for decent brakes

2K for Suspension

Then put premium fluids through it next service, and as BENNY said, and possibly FLUID coolers. That's approx 10K.

Lastly, Please remember that you will inevitably lose out on any mods you do, as you never get squat back from them. All these guys selling hughe powered BA/BF T's are not getting much more than a stocker... BUT if you are keeping it a while then go for gold. You can always strip it and sell it stock.

All the best mate, and keep us updated!

Dan

EDIT: Oh yeah and as DJ said, if you are even concerned about warranty in the SLIGHTEST then don't touch the car at all!!! they are looking for excuses to void warranty. It's money they have to fork out on broken parts, and if they can blame it on you and your mods, no matter how small, they will jump on the chance.

Edited 03/04/09 04:02 AM by NVT