Hard Casing Gone On Camshaft

[Dans XR6 Turbo]

Ya should be able to sell them pretty easily I would think. Give it a go here if you like.

Do you have pics of the old cam??

No dont mate, he showed me pic off his phone camera, will try and get him to bluetooth it to me and hopefully image is good enough for me to muck around with it and get it up on here

[MaTTe]

Hye mate, I didn't mean any offence.

I was stating more that as unusual as a cam lobe wearing is, it is not uncommon.

I have seen cam lobes so worn that htey are perfectly round.

I was stating more that alot of people hear the word addative and turn a blind eye, or start taking shots, or have never heard anything about them.

Oils can only ever be so good.

That quality Penrite oir whatever top grade oil you can find, will usually breakdown on a pressure wheel somewhere between 25-35ft/lbs.

The addatives I listed above have tested to well above 120ft/lbs, and don't wear the bearings used in the test - unlike any oil you wish to name.

I have seen an article on another forum that did an oil test, the Royal Purple didn't wear the lifter. where as all the others did. I haven't presonally tested Royal Purple, but all oils I have tested in the past come up like the lifters in that specific test.

It was no disrespect to you, but I still think you should research Microglide especially. it has saved one of our race motors after having no oil pressure for most of a race, the bearings were still like new, so we put the motor tegether with the same bearings. That engine should have siezed, or atleast scored the bearings heavily.

a bit of insight..

[PHANTMXR6]

I call BS on the 'it has saved one of our race motors after having no oil pressure for most of a race'.

No oil pressure for any amount of time in any engine, let alone a race engine, will kill it within minutes, sometimes seconds.

How long was this 'most of a race'??

[Dans XR6 Turbo]

Hye mate, I didn't mean any offence.

I was stating more that as unusual as a cam lobe wearing is, it is not uncommon.

I have seen cam lobes so worn that htey are perfectly round.

I was stating more that alot of people hear the word addative and turn a blind eye, or start taking shots, or have never heard anything about them.

Oils can only ever be so good.

That quality Penrite oir whatever top grade oil you can find, will usually breakdown on a pressure wheel somewhere between 25-35ft/lbs.

The addatives I listed above have tested to well above 120ft/lbs, and don't wear the bearings used in the test - unlike any oil you wish to name.

I have seen an article on another forum that did an oil test, the Royal Purple didn't wear the lifter. where as all the others did. I haven't presonally tested Royal Purple, but all oils I have tested in the past come up like the lifters in that specific test.

It was no disrespect to you, but I still think you should research Microglide especially. it has saved one of our race motors after having no oil pressure for most of a race, the bearings were still like new, so we put the motor tegether with the same bearings. That engine should have siezed, or atleast scored the bearings heavily.

a bit of insight..

No probs matte, yeah was intending to use royal purple next time round, started off with penrite and then was converted to fuschs but now fuschs has dissapeared so I still had 8 litres of penrite left so instaed of letting it go to waste I used it for the last change but will definitely go royal purple next. Where do you get this microglide from matte? Interested in looking into it. Cheers

[MaTTe]

I call BS on the 'it has saved one of our race motors after having no oil pressure for most of a race'.

No oil pressure for any amount of time in any engine, let alone a race engine, will kill it within minutes, sometimes seconds.

How long was this 'most of a race'??

As I said before, the people that 'call bullsh*t' are those that have no experience with addatives.

Early in a 8 lap race, lap 2 from memory, the oil light came on. The driver immediately backed off, dropping from first place to third. After a lap of cruising the car seemed as if nothing was wrong, so the driver figured it was an electrical fault and started pushing on. By this time we had lost alot of ground on the cars ahead of us, but managed to catch and take back 2nd place, and got close to reclaiming 1st by then end of the 8th lap.

When the car pulled into the pits, it was idling right next to us, while the driver was telling us that the oil light had come on. No one in the pits could hear any of the signs of low or more to the point NON EXISTENT oil pressure.

Shocked by what the driver had said, we shut off the motor and pulled off the rocker cover. Everything was bone dry. We changed that motor for a spare in 47minutes and went out and won the next race.

After the race wekend was over we pulled down the motor to find that we had broken the oil pickup clean off, the vibrations had got the better of it.

Seeing that - we feared the worst. But when we pulled the big ends off, and pulled the conrods apart, and pulled the pistons out we were happily surprised that there was no wear on anything.

The bearings were all exactly the same as they had been at the start of the season, the cylinders were just as fresh as the day they were honed.

Because everything was so perfect, there was no point in changing any of the bearings, so we put the motor back with the same bearings and piston rings, and the motor finished the rest of the season.

It's not magic, but it sounds alot like it.

It proves itself on a pressure wheel. Anyone that has used a pressure wheel will know, oil on a pressure wheel makes a screech that could break fillings in your teeth.

Put a good addative - note GOOD addative - on the pressure wheel and the sound becomes nearly non existent.

The amperage of the pressure wheel shows a massive change too, it's much harder to drive the pressure wheel with the drag created by metal on metal even when there is oil coating it.

One day when I have some free time I will film the use of the pressure wheel with all of the variables I can throw at it. there are enough standard and 'good' motor oils kicking around the shed to give you an idea of how similar they are, then I'll throw some addative on to open your eyes.

A bit of insight..

Dan: I get Microglide off My Grandad's long time friend, Ken May - for any of you that know him.

I would even be willing to give a personal money back garauntee, because I know for a fact that you will be addicted after using it.

I use it in all my engines, manual gearboxes, non-LSDs, powersteering, any other hydraulics etc.

It can't be used in Automatics in its pure form, because they require friction to operate, but there is an automatic transmission addative they have formulated to give the benefits.

It cannot be used in LSDs because they too require friction to operate, so a LSD will become a one wheel wonder, where as my open diff acted as a LSD constantly.

Ask anyone that has used and more to the point, tested PROMA - what they think, and what results were achieved. PROMA is a little different in the way it works, and the sort of benefits you gain, but the friction elimination is the same.

Edited 24/03/09 11:16 AM by MaTTe

[Ace]

proma is the best thing I have ever seen had a tractor ready for the rubbish dump over heating running real rough put proma in and within an hour of driving could swear someone had done an engine change - it is good stuff.

[Mike XR6T]

this baby's just heating up hehe

calling bs is funny as lol

im gonna use that again lmao

[Under-Pants]

Dans, have a look for cams on ebay mate, there are sets on there selling for a fraction of what Fraud are asking for them!!

[PHANTMXR6]

It would appear I stand corrected.

I still can't grasp if this stuff is so great why you'd bother running oil at all.

It would appear as if it has all the necessary abilities of engine oil.

[MaTTe]

$77 a litre becomes pretty expensive per oil change.. how mcu oil in the sump of your turbo? 7.5L?

but the way it works, you just use 60ml per litre in your sump. I always double dose it, because the benefit far out weighs the cost.

It ends up making any random oil better than almost all high priced oils(yet to test royal purple)

I still prefer to use shell oil as a minimum however.

I could explain the benefits all day long, I've heard them all so many times coming from a man that knows his oils.

You wouldn't want to use the addative in high ratio in a gearbox or transfer case however, it becomes like a LSD, you need a little bit of friction for the syncros in a gearbox to grab, if you have no oil in there, the synchros will repel each other.

But I will seriously offer a money back garauntee if any one is unsure.

I know you'll realise it is money well spent instantly. You don't know acceleration in your own car until you've had microglide in it.

But yeah, I don't mean to hijack the thread, more to throw a preventative option out to you all.