Shaky Bones Member 6 Member For: 16y 1m 8d Posted 25/02/09 11:59 AM Share Posted 25/02/09 11:59 AM (edited) Ok first post - I'm not going to try and bullsh*t anyone I know very little about Ford XR6s and wouldn't be on here unless my best mate just bought one.But what I do know a lot about is Japanese Turbo cars and the importance a well designed exhaust is for the success of any turbo application.My basic question is has anyone on here tried out the C.E.S Racing exhaust for the XR6 Turbo?http://www.cesracing.com.au/http://www.cesracing.com.au/Products/The reason I ask is there seems be a lot of controversy with the Xforce systems and other than APS you poor bastards have a limited amount of choice when it comes to bolt an exhausts (something JDM cars have multiple options with) for the XR6 Turbo.I would also like to note the Xforce exhaust in the JDM or Import community is also known as quite cheap and pretty below average as a total exhaust many people just use their CAT back systems with Japanese made front and dump pipe set ups.Anyway as a Owner of a Nissan 200sx S15 and a previous owner of a MY00 WRX and R32 GTR I know of the absolute awesome quality of exhaust C.E.S design. The 3" system offered for my current car the S15 200sx had a 45kw atw improvement after one of their dump pipes were fitted.Anyway I know they have a kit for the XR6 Turbo which they claim to have a 36kw improvement on a STOCK XR6 Turbo I just wanted to know if anyone has one or tried their system?I have seen Dyno sheets of their system which do appear to have such an improvement and after personal experience on my JDM cars is a brand I highly recommend.But just seeing if anyone off here has any actual real world experience with their system for the XR6 Turbo as I would like to recommend it to my friend. Or at least their twin dump pipe set up.Ps. sorry for the really long thread. Edited 25/02/09 12:04 PM by Shaky Bones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman The Cleaning Dudes Ute Silver Donating Members 1,308 Member For: 18y 11m 22d Gender: Male Location: Bentleigh, Vic, Australia Posted 25/02/09 02:09 PM Share Posted 25/02/09 02:09 PM (edited) I've got a 3.5" CES exhaust sitting in my lounge room just begging to be put on my car.From what I've heard they're split dump pipe is supposed to be the shiznit.Also curious about this... Edited 25/02/09 02:10 PM by Jman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 4m 20d Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 25/02/09 03:26 PM Share Posted 25/02/09 03:26 PM http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=46479http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=52925Jarrod's thread.http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33144 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty32 Legendary member!! Donating Members 1,739 Member For: 18y 2m 12d Gender: Male Location: Dianella, West Oz Posted 26/02/09 01:37 AM Share Posted 26/02/09 01:37 AM The reason I ask is there seems be a lot of controversy with the Xforce systems and other than APS you poor bastards have a limited amount of choice when it comes to bolt an exhausts (something JDM cars have multiple options with) for the XR6 Turbo.I would also like to note the Xforce exhaust in the JDM or Import community is also known as quite cheap and pretty below average as a total exhaust many people just use their CAT back systems with Japanese made front and dump pipe set ups.Welcome dude! Have a read through the exhaust section of the forum and you will find info on what people are using to make a specific power etc...I came from a 32 GTR myself a few years back, and in comparison to Imports, there are not as many options for aftermarket exhausts.Things have changed over the past few years though, and now we do have a bit of a bigger selection to choose from.The CES exhausts have a very good reputation for quality and workmanship. They are on the expensive side however.It would be advise that you set a budget for the exhaust and a goal as far as the power you want to achieve!SMB, Tunehouse, the soon to be released Nizpro 4", Di Fillipo, APS and Xforce are the common off the shelf exhausts that the majority of us will use.Although Xforce do not have the best reputation in the JDM arena, there are enough people on here making very good power with their Xforce to warrant them as a decent option. They come in at the cheaper end of the scale and although the workmanship, quality and finish might not be as high as some of the more expensive systems they are a good system for the price. Plenty of people are making around 400rwkw with this system.If you have more money to play with, I would recommend looking at the CES, SMB (I use the 4" SMB system), THR (made by Tunehouse - highest power street driven XR6T/F6 uses this system) and the soon to be released Nizpro system. They are a better built/quality system's than the Xforce, but expect the price to reflect that. You can obviously look into a custom system too!Overall, you may find that the $1000 - $2000 you save purchasing an Xforce over a CES for example can be spent better elsewhere (cooler & intake or Fuel system etc), so it really depends what your wanting from your vehicle as to what might suit your application exhaust wise!Good luck with it and let us know what you end up doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaky Bones Member 6 Member For: 16y 1m 8d Posted 26/02/09 05:59 AM Author Share Posted 26/02/09 05:59 AM cheers guys for the links and adviceI probably should have done a search first.Well I still drive a Nissan S15 200sx and wouldn't have it any other way, but my best mate owns a BF MKII XR6T and its pretty stock. Im pretty sure he comes on here just never posts.I might advise him to go the CES dump pipe as that is their party piece, a metal cat and some other 4" cat back.but will post up when it gets donethanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straughsberry Donating Members 1,846 Member For: 17y 7m 16d Gender: Male Location: Broady, Melbourne Posted 26/02/09 06:52 AM Share Posted 26/02/09 06:52 AM I don't know about the CES system but I have an XForce 3.5inch with split dump. I did a dyno run before and after the exhaust was fitted. Without a tune I picked up 19rwkw. With tune, I picked up 35rwkw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPGMH Donating Members 302 Member For: 20y 8m 26d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 26/02/09 08:17 AM Share Posted 26/02/09 08:17 AM There are also specialist Exhaust shops , such as Lambros exhaust , they have a large factory which can make whatever you desire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo.vixen Hey guys, Tab is here... Oh i feel sick Lifetime Members 8,459 Member For: 16y 10m 11d Gender: Male Location: sunshine coast Posted 26/02/09 08:21 AM Share Posted 26/02/09 08:21 AM iv got the ces 3.5" with twin dump pipe, its a really good system and does a great job. nice sound also, not to quiet but not to loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauies Member 209 Member For: 21y 6m 12d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 26/02/09 08:50 AM Share Posted 26/02/09 08:50 AM shaky bones,maybe able to set your mate up with a second hand ces exhaust to suit a ba bf sedan, as a mate is selling his carpm if keen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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