Mals BA XR6T Member 381 Member For: 22y 3m 1d Location: Sydney Posted 17/01/03 12:59 AM Share Posted 17/01/03 12:59 AM I've had both Manual and Auto cars... (The Auto in the AU was utter crap)As a result I was going the manual.... however... after driving the Auto with SSS for a bit, it was a dream to have the SSS. This box is great. It's actually a full clutchless manual, and torque converter comes on in 3rd gear, and 4th... so it feels like you have a car that has 6 gears... you can drive in 3rd with the torque converter engaged, and put your foot down, it then releases the torque converter and gives you more power (higher revs)... this is hard to explain... but this box is very smart. And I think if you really want to make more changes to it... like locking reverse and drive, to increase revs and then take off you'll be able to some time down the track (I know you can do this with other Auto's)Anyway, just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phantom Guests Posted 17/01/03 01:03 AM Share Posted 17/01/03 01:03 AM Have to disagree raoulc.I reckon I was using D about 80% of the time for the first couple of weeks and now find it is the other way around. I am using the SS about 80% of the time but still have the option of using D if I am sitting in traffic, tired, hungover or couldn't be stuffed "driving".I agree that the manual is better to "drive" the car however the SS is not a bad compromise if you also want the auto which most of us city slickers do.My mate has an auto AU for his wife and can't wait to get a BA after going for a spin and using the SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 2m 9d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 17/01/03 08:00 AM Share Posted 17/01/03 08:00 AM I've had both Manual and Auto cars... (The Auto in the AU was utter crap)As a result I was going the manual.... however... after driving the Auto with SSS for a bit, it was a dream to have the SSS. This box is great. It's actually a full clutchless manual, and torque converter comes on in 3rd gear, and 4th... so it feels like you have a car that has 6 gears... you can drive in 3rd with the torque converter engaged, and put your foot down, it then releases the torque converter and gives you more power (higher revs)... this is hard to explain... but this box is very smart. And I think if you really want to make more changes to it... like locking reverse and drive, to increase revs and then take off you'll be able to some time down the track (I know you can do this with other Auto's)Anyway, just my 2 cents I drive the SSS box as well and agree totally with your impression of the car having the feel of more than a 4 speed box due to the converter control. Drivability is great that way, as you can be crusing in say 3rd, at revs. too low for boost, put your foot down and the box drops 1/2 a gear to produce useful boost, more torque and power.Mine has now done 2700k's and is starting to loosen up, so to all you guys with only a few k's on the clock, be patient, it gets better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondie Firm Member Donating Members 2,924 Member For: 22y 4m 3d Location: Adelaide Hills Posted 17/01/03 09:31 AM Share Posted 17/01/03 09:31 AM I bought a manual and love it. If you get an auto you will drive an auto even with a Sequential transmission. After the frist week you'll keep it in drive and that's were it will stay. For me - manual was the way and I am more than happy.Spot on raoulc.Out TS50 had tiptronic on the steering wheel, thought it would be a good compromise with my wife as she preffered the auto. Played with it for the first week, and then the novelty wore off. I was no substitute for a manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falchoon I see red Member 5,758 Member For: 22y 2m 16d Location: nowhere in particular Posted 20/01/03 03:18 AM Share Posted 20/01/03 03:18 AM Firstly, this entire thing about an auto having an advantage because it's never off boost - I'm curious. Turbos spin at high RPMs why so would their be a significant drop in boost when changing gears in a manual? They don't just stop spinning when you kick the clutch in. I've never noticed any detrimental effects when changing gears when driving in the boosted range of the 200SX. Doesn't the blow off valve relese the pressure of the boost when changing gears in a manual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DZ. Guests Posted 20/01/03 04:46 AM Share Posted 20/01/03 04:46 AM Yes but with a turbo spinning at thousands of RPM I would imagine it would only take a split second to repressurise I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdm Member 886 Member For: 22y 4m 21d Posted 20/01/03 07:32 AM Share Posted 20/01/03 07:32 AM Here is a quote from drive.com.au regarding the XR6T Ute,"The shifter in the five-speed manual was smoother than earlier examples, but the auto is still the way to go. It keeps the turbo on the boil and, believe it or not, is quicker than the manual."So confusing! I have an auto AU which annoys me but have only heard bad reports about the manual BA. I drove the manual turbo the other day, and while it didn't seem too bad, it wasn't the slickest manual on the planet. Auto: has SSS, driver can be slack, supposedly handle more torque than T5, and according to drive.com.au is quicker! Yet my experience with the AU is that its indescisive, slow and unrefined.Manual: More control/fun, possibly easier to 'beef' up to handle more torque, would have to be quicker to 100km/h as the auto has a very tall first (about 80km/h!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 2m 9d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 21/01/03 02:53 PM Share Posted 21/01/03 02:53 PM Here is a quote from drive.com.au regarding the XR6T Ute,"The shifter in the five-speed manual was smoother than earlier examples, but the auto is still the way to go. It keeps the turbo on the boil and, believe it or not, is quicker than the manual."So confusing! I have an auto AU which annoys me but have only heard bad reports about the manual BA. I drove the manual turbo the other day, and while it didn't seem too bad, it wasn't the slickest manual on the planet. Auto: has SSS, driver can be slack, supposedly handle more torque than T5, and according to drive.com.au is quicker! Yet my experience with the AU is that its indescisive, slow and unrefined.Manual: More control/fun, possibly easier to 'beef' up to handle more torque, would have to be quicker to 100km/h as the auto has a very tall first (about 80km/h!). PLLLEASE - DO NOT COMPARE THE BA TO THE AU - They are chalk and cheese!!I owned an AU Fairmont Ghia V8 before, and the BA is in a different league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordboy1981 Donating Members 2,075 Member For: 22y 1m 14d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 26/01/03 10:00 AM Share Posted 26/01/03 10:00 AM well I've had both an auto EF and a manual (the manual has a brass button clutch). the manual has a sh*te load more pick-up off the line and in gear surge, so if that's anything to go by the manual the T should be at least 0.5 - 1.0 seconds faster to 100.....that's my 2 c.....Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordboy1981 Donating Members 2,075 Member For: 22y 1m 14d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 26/01/03 10:06 AM Share Posted 26/01/03 10:06 AM also one other thing, the first gear ratios are as follows:Auto: 13.6 km/h/1000rpm = 74.8km/h@5500rpmManual: 11.6 km/h/1000rpm = 63.8km/h@5500rpmDave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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