Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 2m 6d Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 07/05/09 08:07 AM Share Posted 07/05/09 08:07 AM Good to hear some good news for a change TV, sorry to hear about your cuz 01txr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace blind leading the blind Member 3,657 Member For: 16y 4m 9d Gender: Male Location: Mt Alford, Queensland Posted 07/05/09 08:46 AM Share Posted 07/05/09 08:46 AM awesome awesome news jamie01txr that sux mate sorry to hear farkin cancer the worst disease of em all Fuc;k you cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Gold Donating Members 2,198 Member For: 21y 2m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 07/06/09 06:13 PM Share Posted 07/06/09 06:13 PM (edited) Hi all. Sorry to bring up this horrible topic again and if I hadn't seen what I'm about to say here I would never have believed it. I regularly travel around the world, mainly the UK and USA or Malaysia, working to help with pain management for cancer victims, many of them unfortunately are terminal and I have seen a huge amount of pain and grief for the too many people who pass from this disease, and also for the ones who are left behind. I don't usually enter into the medical vs alternative therapy debate, and I have seen some good results from complimentary therapies when conventional medicine has thrown its hands in the air and sent patients home with bottles of Morphine (which in my opinion equates to death by agreement with the doctor and ignorance on behalf of the patient) and the "Sorry we can't do any more for you explanation", but I have always put them down to spontaneous remissions that would have probably happened anyway.Two weeks ago I got called from a wealthy London businessman to help his wife who was lying in agony at The Royal Marsden Hospital in London for 3 months with stomach cancer. I arrived at the hospital and was shocked as she was much worse than I had expected and looked identical to a POW from the concentration camps. The Royal Marsden Hospital is widely acknowleged among western medicine as the BEST cancer hospital in the world with the most up to date treatments if you can afford the 2700 pounds a night plus about another 1000 a night for morphine and anything else they consider may be needed, there was a lady from Kuwait who had been there for 2 years with Pancreatic cancer who got sent back to Kuwait last week with the can't help you letter so figure out how much that has cost her family. For this cost you wait 20 minutes for a nurse after you call on the buzzer and about another 20 to 30 minutes before they finally return with a pain killer or whatever may be needed. The nurses there are fantastic caring people who are stretched to the limit, but the doctors appear to be a different story completely and only check the patient about once a week and just prescribe more morphine. The rooms are old dark dingy and antiquated and 98% of the patients seem to get chemoed to the point of no return.Anyway the husband of this lady decided to do some alternative research and found some treatments that were well evidenced based from a clinic in Mexico run by US medical doctors (not naturopaths or alternative practitioners) called Hope4Cancer, after considerable email and phone contact he flew one of the MDs in from the US with their non toxic products which are clinical extracts, radio therapies, and mass vitamin C intravenous injections and tried to get permission for them to be adminstered at the Royal Marsden. The Professor of oncology wouldn't have a bar of it or even look at the protocols and basically threw the US MD out of the hospital, turned to the womans husband in the room and said "Whats all the fuss about she only has a few days or a week at best to live?" That was the last straw for the poor bugger so he immdeiately ordered an air ambulance to get her out of the place.This is where it gets interesting. He booked into a clinic in Lausanne Switzerland where they will allow any non toxic and non invasive treatment to be done. The letter from the doctors at the Royal Marsden for the air ambulance nurse and the doctors at the Cecil clinic here in Lausanne stated in writing that they did not think that she would survive the flight and if her heart was to become erratic or fail not to try to revive her, unbelievable but true, and up until the medivac ambulance arrived at the hospital they were trying to get him to change his mind and he told them in no uncertain terms to go F@$K themselves.She was stretchered into an ambulance and taken to London City airport where the medivac flight complete with a nurse and doctor was waiting for her. Within minutes of taking off was asking to sit up and look out the window. Myself and the US doctor flew on a commercial flight to Geneva leaving London City Airport at the same time, and then caught a cab to the clinic at Lausanne, which took about 6 hours in total, while she had a bed to bed turn around of 4 hours exactly. She was met at the ICU at the Cecil Clinic by a medical team and an oncologist upon arrival, they took ten minutes to evaluate the US doctors protocol and learn the administration techniques and doses and the then went to work.Three days has passed and now she is completely lucid, sitting up chatting, she has no pain and her morphine which was being administered 7 to 8 times a day at Royal Marsden was immediately reduced by 90%. Her tumour markers have fallen by 70%, she has regained 2 kilos in 3 days and she sleeps deeply and calmly. If she calls for a nurse 3 of them are with her in less than a minute, there is a full time doctor on the ward and the cost is 365 pounds a day for full care, fresh flowers are delivered daily and a view from the private room window across lake Geneva to the French Alps is included complimentary.Given the seriousness of this situation I have to say in 8 years of doing this work I have never seen anything like this happen and I am writing this post with the husbands permission to simply say that there is hope and if you can research other evidenced based therapies before it is too late then do it, because it has become painfully obvious to me after what I am witnessing that there are other non invasive treatments that do work, cost a hell of a lot less, and don't poison the patient with chemotherapy and morphine to the point of muscular atrophy and complete misery. There is no way I would even consider saying this woman is cured or is in remission, but she now has a quality of life and is beginning very quickly to resemble a human being again, and I don't encourage for moment to any cancer victim to rush off for any alternative treatments on heresay because there is a hell of a lot of quackery among them. But I can say with surety and without a doubt that the western medical system has a pathetic cure rate with the majority of cancers, it is a law unto itself, refuses to change its doctrines, and is brilliant at manipulating statistics.From what I have witnessed these past 14 days I can also say that if any of my family got cancer I would go to an Australian oncologist for tests and a diagnosis and then immediately to a travel agent for a ticket to either here ot the hope4cancer clinic in Mexico where there is humane, caring, and what appears to be much more effective treatment. Condolances to all who have lost loved ones to this scurge. Edited 07/06/09 06:14 PM by hypnodoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 8m 26d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 08/06/09 04:38 AM Share Posted 08/06/09 04:38 AM Wow Very interesting post Doc. I think it's one of the few 'ailments' that they really don't have much of a grasp on...so you'd certainly be prepared to try anything.Was just speaking with Mumsy who tells me about one of the locals up there, had a pimple inside his nose that wouldn't go away. Turned out to be malignant cancer and is currently in ICU with his nose, top lip, and roof of his mouth removed. Age 36. That's just plain and simply f*cked up.And here I was last week whinging about having the flu. Pales in significance really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Gold Donating Members 2,198 Member For: 21y 2m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 08/06/09 07:13 AM Share Posted 08/06/09 07:13 AM I think its common that they stuff up. I saw someone have the same thing happen with a mouth ulcer that saw 3 doctors who said don't worry. I think ego and stubborness can get in the way.Below is a link to an assessment of the effectiveness of Chemotherapy from their own studies. I wouldn't feed it to cops for most cancershttp://www.mindmotivations.com/articles/pd...ralia_Study.pdfI have to say Lausanne is a great place to wake up in the mornings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dork Member 13 Member For: 15y 9m 13d Posted 14/07/09 01:43 PM Share Posted 14/07/09 01:43 PM my old mans got 3-6 months with brain cancer, already had a massive tumor removed last boxing day. he disowned me when I was 16 but I saw him on xmas day for the first time in 11 years...... believe it or not he was still having a crack at me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 7m 25d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 14/07/09 01:50 PM Share Posted 14/07/09 01:50 PM (edited) My heart goes out to everyone involved with this disease.My mum had breast cancer 3 years back and it was the first thing since I was 5 years old that scared the absolute sh*t out of me. Fighting something you know nothing about is hard, but but my thoughts and prays go out to all that have to deal with this horrible disease. Edited 14/07/09 01:51 PM by Dillz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under-Pants Member 2,103 Member For: 16y 6m 23d Gender: Not Telling Posted 30/07/09 10:52 PM Share Posted 30/07/09 10:52 PM (edited) Well I lost my Grand Dad yesterday.He's had emphysema for several years and managed okay, but out of no where metaphorically hit a wall and spiralled down hill a week or so ago.. Lost most of his functions...bed ridden, unable to eat/drink. My Grandmother & mumsy/her siblings finally bit the bullet a few days ago and decided he was time for him to STFU and go to hospital.The doctors could see the strain the disease was placing on his once robust heart, so they opened him up to see what they could do...to find that he was riddled with inoperable tumor's.The tumor's started to bleed badly internally so it was decided his best bet at surviving was to go into a coma and let his body try to heal itself...this was in the hope that perhaps he could get well enough to be be discharged and enjoy a few more weeks of life.Once they realised early this morning that he had only hours to live I was there in a flash. Well worth the trip because I managed to see him in the ICU where he had been, still breathing. Although unconscious I still spent a good few hours beside him & went away feeling that I got to tell him that he had always been a good mate and that I loved him.I held it together pretty well at the hospital as hard as it was knowing that we were all saying goodbye for the last time. Apart from a few tears with mumsy I kept a straight face until I took off home to get some sleep that I needed before heading back out to work, about two hours before he passed. I got the message when he slipped away around lunch time. Even then I kept my serious face on until later that evening when I completely & utterly broke down while having my first attept at writing this very post.So finally comes my big and very whole hearted F*CK YOU to cancer.My heart goes out to every other person affected in any way by this c*nt of a disease.In loving memory of Kenneth Green 10/01/1933 - 30/07/2009. RIP mate. Edited 30/07/09 11:05 PM by Man-Pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang3 12" member Donating Members 2,107 Member For: 19y 6m 27d Location: Perth WA Posted 30/07/09 11:29 PM Share Posted 30/07/09 11:29 PM sorry to hear Kael !!!both my grandmas who live 1000's of miles apart (one in South Africa one here) were both diagnosed this year with cancer a few weeks apart - one with lymphoma from a tumour in her chest and the other with stage 4 lung cancer..both went from healthy to bed ridden within a few months of being diagnosed at almost the same time as each other, and both passed away within the past couple of weeks with my local one passing on Monday arvo..f*cking horriible disease to see someone wasting away like that going downhill so badly til they are totally unaware of everything around them and it was almost a relief at the end to see them go peacefully.I'm definitely pro voluntary euthanasia now after seeing my grandma transform from a strong proud matriarch to her last few days of life in utter pain and confusion.RIP to everyone affected by this f*cker of a disease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robos F6 Donating Members 407 Member For: 15y 10m 18d Gender: Male Location: Vic Posted 30/07/09 11:35 PM Share Posted 30/07/09 11:35 PM My gf who is 38 an aerobics instructor has been diagnosed with melanoma. Fortunately it is a stage 1, level 3 which is a very small one which they have caught before it has spread to her lymph nodes. They have allready taken it out although she has to go in for further surgery to cut 1cm radious out of the melanoma. She was a frequent visitor to solariums and we even had one in our spare room which has since been sold on ebay. Silly girl. Looks like we are in for the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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