Vyii Clubsport Power

[DrewBytes]

Today in the The Age Drive HSV announced for VYII all Clubsports start with a new 285kw engine. Doesn't mention GTS, but one would guess 325kw+

Good for all of us, let the power battles begin

[mercturbo]

Should be a great car if they've fixed the piston slop. A friend of mine whom I trust has a source inside Ford engine developement, say's the boss engines are currently being tested with twin turbo's not supercharger. This is NOT a fact make of it what you will, if true then Geoff hasn't put his skirt on just yet! and we're in for fun times ahead

[Mondie]

Let the power war begin!!

A 270kw FPV turbo, a forced induction Boss, the Gen 4 Expensive Daewoo V8 on the way......the rivalry is just beginning to hot up. l just hope Expensive Daewoo can pick their quality up with the VZ, because at the moment that's what would stop me buying one.

[240 T]

Interisting to see how they couldn't find any power before a gt came out with 290kw so they are bringing it to 285kw well I guess ford and fpv should get scared now that is piss weak sorry but it is it has taken them 5 years and it's on it's 3rd model now to get Expensive Daewoo from 220kw-245kw and hsv to take clubsport from 250kw-285kw and they havent changed the gts for 5 years from what I have heard ford has a country mile long list of things they can do to tweak the boss and I sure as hell hope they bring out a series 2 ba XR6T/8 and a GT/GT-P/and GT something to blow the pants of these things as drewbites says " LET THE BATTLE BEGIN"

[plonky]

GM have the arrogance to believe that they are the market leader and they have the most powerful product.

If there ever is a Govt. crackdown on power outputs for engines then GM had a significant contribution to letting this happen.

They just can't be satisfied with the fact that there cars have held the majority of sales for the past 5 years, that their cars are preferred by fleet companies because of the minimal depreciation in comparison to their competition, and their racing successes have been a product of a massive budget in comparison to every other team and manufacturer.

It just goes to show that GM are like the Government of the day....the Opposition doesn;t win power, the Government loses it.

By going blow for blow with Ford over power outputs for their top seller (Commodore) they want to stay in that No 1 position.

Pity their product is so Goddamn ugly and overrated (I know what I'm talking about, I drive one every day and have been selected to evaluate the XR8/XR6T for HWP duty....XR8 wins hands down!!!)

[DrewBytes]

Plonky, just cause you say the XR8 is better, don't make it so. All the performance cars from Ford/Expensive Daewoo are great products - it boils down to personal preference. Taste in cars is similar to women - sometimes fickle, and differs widely from person to person.

240 T, manufacturers in any game only do what they have to, including cars. Why would Expensive Daewoo have to up the power output unless they have to? They are the no 1 seller, they're increasing power now because of the Ford products that are available, they want to retain no 1 spot - nothing wrong with that! The LS1 has TONS of room to move - all you have to do to get 300kw is exhaust + edit the ECU. Want 350kw? Add a mild cam. 400kw? heads+cam. LS1 motors make very easy power, can't say about the Boss, don't know enough about it.

It's thanks to the rivalry between Expensive Daewoo and Ford that we have the great cars we do today. It's going to be an interesting few years, with the VZ coming out next year with the new 6 rated around 200kw or just under, the Gen4, the all new VE in 2006. Exciting times ahead!

[ducatijb]

  DrewBytes said:

It's going to be an interesting few years, with the VZ coming out next year with the new 6 rated around 200kw or just under, the Gen4, the all new VE in 2006. Exciting times ahead!

Geez,do I smell depreciation here-are Bombadores really going to release a new model every 9 months

[plonky]

Drewbytes

The Purpose of my involvement of the evaluation was to see whether the SS and the XR6T/XR8 would inspire confidence across a broad range of specialist drivers, longevity, recovery, performance etc

There are a number of thing which are very important,particularly for the type of work I do. We have a huge budget, but it is not unlimited and I don't think 9k from a set of tyres is very economical. This relates to one model and brand of car and due to a model change we are now going through three sets of tyres for every one set on the previous model.

I have been driving both the Expensive Daewoo and Ford for a fair while now and the XR8 absolutely smashes the SS in a number of areas. This is a change considering the AU was probably not the best type of car for our type of work.

The facts don't lie, there is a massive shift towards the XR8 with a large number of orders for the car. In fact our fleet dept is only ordering Falcons for the nest two months to staisfy the demand.

I certainly agree with you that both cars have some positive features and they are probably the performance bargains anywhere in the World.

I intend no offence to you, however I thought it fair to explain exactly what criteria we are working under.

Cheers

[DavoWA]

I just hope that the power war allows a little bit of "factory" improvement.

Which other cars can dial up as much "mumbo" with a change to the computer and boost level.

[Zeke]

Plonky

Accepting that you are talking about a very specific application, could you let us all know where the XR8 beats the turbo.

Not challenging - just curious.

Regards

zeke