tpinto Donating Members 103 Member For: 16y 2m 11d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 07/01/09 03:13 PM Share Posted 07/01/09 03:13 PM Hi everyone, great forum.Just a little about my self. I left a major Ford dealership in Sydney after working in the spare parts sales department for over 20 years about 6 months ago and as a going away present bought myself an FG XR6T.this is my first post even though I joined up about 5 weeks ago. So why Know? Because I was told something today and I am hoping that someone in this forum who is in the Ford servicing field can confirm this.I took my FG back in today for some warranty work, an engine sump leaking oil only after 7000 km, and apparently it will be the 3rd one that they have had in with the same problem, but that's not what concerns me. After telling a couple of my mates,who are the head mechanics there, that I was going to Flash Tune the car they warned me not to. Apparently The Ford engineers have now a program that can detect if a BFII or FG has ever been flashed tuned at any stage of its motoring life. They claim that they have had first hand experience with this and to talk to the poor bloke who brought his BFII XR6T in with a blown motor a couple of months ago wanting Ford warranty to cover the damage. Any warranty work costing Ford over a certain amount of dollars they send in an engineer to the dealership and he gives the go ahead to commence the work. Apparently the first thing this engineer did was to hook up the cars ECU to his computer and after a few minutes he came to the conclusion that the car had been Flashed tuned and detuned on a couple of different occasions and so declined the warranty claim and they have not heard from the bloke since even after threats of legal action from him. But it gets worst, they told me that Ford will be selling the software to the dealerships so that they can determine if trade ins on new cars have been Flashed tuned at any stage and if so it will devalue the car by thousands, Because if sold its the dealership that warrants the car and not Ford Motor Company, potentially saving them a fortune.They told me that a Flash Tuned car would loss all warranty on the whole motor, transmission, differential and drive shafts.Could someone in the know please tell me if its true or not, sadly if its true I will have to give up the thought of a Flash Tune.Thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTe Member 143 Member For: 16y 3m 13d Location: Perth Posted 07/01/09 03:37 PM Share Posted 07/01/09 03:37 PM yeah I heard a while back that the BF ecu's log all changes made to the maps, and rather than replacing the last flash, it just adds it to the list.All it basically means, is make sure you go to a good tuner and get a safe tune, don't do burnouts and everything should hold together.Or wait until the warranty is up to start making changes..OR buy a cheap ba/bf turbo and make a weapon out of that and keep the FG as a daily driverbut either way, ford finally got smart after forking out bucketloads on warranty claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENVY-T CNUTOX Donating Members 3,098 Member For: 22y 1m 8d Gender: Male Location: Not sure? Posted 07/01/09 07:32 PM Share Posted 07/01/09 07:32 PM Hi. Welcome to the forums and to 2004Saying round here is, You play you pay. Ford have been able to do this for a quite awhile now, just most here don't try and claim warranty for things that are power related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 9m 20d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 07/01/09 11:25 PM Share Posted 07/01/09 11:25 PM Don't mind Envy, he's the forum bulldog. Cute but angry There has been all sorts of conjecture being thrown around for years about what they can and can’t lookup, but at the end of the day I think it’s a good thing. Can’t really expect them to warrant something beyond what it was designed for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-SPEC You are a dead set goose Silver Donating Members 3,968 Member For: 19y 2m 15d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 07/01/09 11:35 PM Share Posted 07/01/09 11:35 PM Even if it is on the brink in standard form... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENVY-T CNUTOX Donating Members 3,098 Member For: 22y 1m 8d Gender: Male Location: Not sure? Posted 08/01/09 03:33 AM Share Posted 08/01/09 03:33 AM Woof Woof, can I hump your leg now Tabitha?I have known first hand, as has Adam (the mod) that they can tell from as early as BA in 2004. It's now just alot easier for the apprentice to find aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 3m Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 08/01/09 03:46 AM Share Posted 08/01/09 03:46 AM I left a major Ford dealership in Sydney after working in the spare parts sales department for over 20 years about 6 months ago ....... someone in this forum who is in the Ford servicing field can confirm this.It's a worry that you dont already know this.... ...not for me though as I dont need spares or Ford servicing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 7d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 08/01/09 03:51 AM Share Posted 08/01/09 03:51 AM Spare parts has absolutely nothing to do with service in a dealership Dags, doesn't surprise me at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 9m 20d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 08/01/09 04:18 AM Share Posted 08/01/09 04:18 AM Are you saying that typically the spare parts guys have NFI? Not very nice Seena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 7d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 08/01/09 04:21 AM Share Posted 08/01/09 04:21 AM I'm saying that I'm not surprised a spare parts employee doesn't know the ins and outs of a service technicians job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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