Xr6t Vs. Xr8

[Guest Bulging Boss]

Dave,

I would personally go for the Boss, simply because of the note and the bulging bonnet... the word EROTIC comes to mind.

On another note, the sedan is definitely the way to go. I would justify this for a number of reasons:

1. the flexibility it will afford you

2. you will WANT to show off to your mates, so a sedan will give you four times the show pony factor

3. it will be better for the environment, because you can car pool with your mates, negating the need for them to drive their cars, thereby burning petrol

On the other hand... perhaps the ute is more in keeping with your image... do you wear flannels, akubra and chew straw?

Cheers, The BOSS

[Guest Diesel Dan]

Buy a hilux and keep you licence.

[fordboy1981]

nah dude, if anything I'm a private-school-prettyboy-yuppy ;-)

the ute has a "something-different" appeal to it....and the sedan is like 10 grand more!!! also in three years the ute will be worth as much as the sedan anyway!!

Dave.

[Guest Bulging Boss]

Dave,

'Private school pretty boy yuppy' hey?! Shouldn't you be going for a BMW then? Or are you of the anti-establishment mould who needs to break away from the life imposed on him by his chardonnay sipping, caviar eating parents?

Only joking mate, definitely the FORD is the way to go for out and out performance... And your parents are helping you pay? Lucky man.

[Guest flavze]

People who say the 8 handles bad, I'm guessing that it's because it understeers. Lovells have aftermarket springs available to fix this, some dealers are even putting them in new for people to test drive. Ask ya dealer about them, not sure of the price though.

News Flash: About 160 bucks or 330 fitted, they keep the same ride hight but improve turn in consideribly.

Edited 21/08/03 11:06 AM by flavze

[fordboy1981]

Bulging Boss => hahaha, you got it in one, I'm trying to break the mould!!!....mind you most of my mates, drive new (or had since new) Fords and Holdens.....mind you a couple have new BMs and Audis too....

the ute is something different....I think they look pretty mad too, I mean the sedan look just as good though....

I'm waiting for Ford to build a Expensive Daewoo ute contendant....the Falcon ute is more suited to the new Expensive Daewoo 1-tonner....imagine a Falcon ute with a full monochoc (spelling???) chassis and that brilliant IRS rear-end......now THAT would be porn!!!

Dave.

[Turbo6man]

  fordboy1981 said:

I'm waiting for Ford to build a Expensive Daewoo ute contendant....the Falcon ute is more suited to the new Expensive Daewoo 1-tonner....imagine a Falcon ute with a full monochoc (spelling???) chassis and that brilliant IRS rear-end......now THAT would be porn!!!

Dave.

Won't happen I don't think - and neither should it. Fact is the beam axle rear end in the Falcon ute is so damn good it handles better than the Crummydore anyway - but possibly the only drawback is that it doesn't ride quite as good at normal cruising speeds.

I'm not a fan of putting IRS in a car just for bragging rights - a well controlled live axle is often as good, and when you consider the weight penalty and cost I really can't see a whole lot of reasons, except marketing, why you would want IRS, esp in a ute.

I have always maintained the best rear end is the Watts Link setup that Ford have used since 1983, and reached virtual perfection with the EL update in '96 - funny that the V8 supercars run this setup ???

[Venom XR6]

The Watts Link might be good for a perfectly smooth race track but on Australia's crappy roads the Control Blade IRS kicks its arse. So much more rear end grip too.

[Turbo6man]

Venom XR6> Sorry, don't agree with that at all - I've had several cars, and still have one car with Watts link and it is 95% as good as my T3 in all driving conditions EXCEPT when applying full power out of a fast corner, and, IMO the control blade IRS is nowhere near as good as the AU wishbone setup - pity about the weight though which is the main reason Ford switched.

[fordboy1981]

I donno Turbo6man I gotta agree with Venom there. live rear ends are better on a perfectly smooth road/track but if you get any corrogations in the road the live rear end simple has too much floated weight. it can't change direction (up and down) fast enough, so as result it skips and scampers over the bumps rather then following them, keeping the tyre in contact with the road...

I'll agree with you that EFII/EL rear end setup is blood good, much better then Holdens BMW E28 copy IRS, but I wouldn't go as far to say that it's better then Fords own IRS setups....

also if Ford did build a Monochoc (spelling??) ute it would be much lighter then the current design. the half chassis' in the current design is why the utes now weigh almost and sometimes as much as the sedans...

Dave.