richdave SLOJAM, Gone but not forgotten Lifetime Members 1,841 Member For: 22y 6m 4d Gender: Male Location: Outer east - Melbourne Posted 04/08/03 04:23 AM Share Posted 04/08/03 04:23 AM I was discussing with the wife why I had to make a post tax contribution to the running of the car so that the company avoided any FBT, and that any out of pocket expenses for "up keep" I incur are deductible against this post tax contribution on a dollar for dollar basis. She replied......."so you can get $4k of mods for free then since you gotta pay the money one way or the other" :idea: :D I'll now have to see how flexible the Lease company will be Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMAN Member 669 Member For: 21y 11m 13d Location: Inglewood, W.A Posted 04/08/03 04:36 AM Share Posted 04/08/03 04:36 AM Gotta love your wife's thinking.... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/#findComment-40561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cro Flower Power Lifetime Members 6,114 Member For: 22y 6m 4d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 04/08/03 04:39 AM Share Posted 04/08/03 04:39 AM Wow, let us know how you go mate.I wouldn't mind spending that much on an upgraded brake set :D Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/#findComment-40563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Member 397 Member For: 22y 2m 15d Location: Brisbane Posted 04/08/03 04:48 AM Share Posted 04/08/03 04:48 AM richdave said: I was discussing with the wife why I had to make a post tax contribution to the running of the car so that the company avoided any FBT, and that any out of pocket expenses for "up keep" I incur are deductible against this post tax contribution on a dollar for dollar basis. She replied......."so you can get $4k of mods for free then since you gotta pay the money one way or the other" :idea: :D I'll now have to see how flexible the Lease company will be Sounds good.. but Id be surprised if the legislation didnt define 'upkeep' so as to prevent this. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/#findComment-40566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer007 Donating Members 149 Member For: 22y 1m 11d Location: Canberra Posted 04/08/03 06:28 AM Share Posted 04/08/03 06:28 AM The Tax Office tends to be fairly restrictive in this area - a lot will depend on how your lease / salary package managers interpret the guidelines from the ATO (never managed to find out where these are detailed however).Had an interesting issue with my EF XR6 - my package administrators rejected a claim for reimbursement of fitting a towbar as they said this constituted an 'upgrade'. However had I had the towbar fitted as part of a service they would have been none the wiser.My tip - exhaust changes = exhaust repairs in my book. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/#findComment-40584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdennis Brendan Dennis Member 750 Member For: 22y 6m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, Vic Posted 04/08/03 06:33 AM Share Posted 04/08/03 06:33 AM Original post edited.... Ultimately you pay for mods. The only diff being that you use pre tax money. There are a few ways to get around the system.. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/#findComment-40585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Isher Guests Posted 04/08/03 07:15 AM Share Posted 04/08/03 07:15 AM Guys,I think you will find that the FBT you contribute post tax is actually used by the lease company toards your on-road costs (ie fuel.) Its called the "Contribution Method"I'm sure I read it somewhere that yes, you do have to pay teh FBT so your employer does not have to burden the cost, however you can use these contributions to pay the running costs of the car..Basically, if you estimate that it will cost you $9000 pa to put the car on the road (fuel, maint etc) you have to pay this in your car lease. However.... if you have to pay $4000 in FBT from your post tax salary so your employer does not have an FBT liability, this $4000 is then used to pay your on road costs so you only contribute $5000 from your pre tax dollars to make up the $9000 pa required.Am I making sence here?? Sorry guys, no 300KW APS upgrades going for free here! :nugget: Regards,isher Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/#findComment-40590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falchoon I see red Member 5,758 Member For: 22y 3m 29d Location: nowhere in particular Posted 04/08/03 07:16 AM Share Posted 04/08/03 07:16 AM I know Barry (BS888) has put a rear wing and full Herrod exhaust on his leased XT without problems. I think different lease companies have different policies on the matter. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/#findComment-40591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richdave SLOJAM, Gone but not forgotten Lifetime Members 1,841 Member For: 22y 6m 4d Gender: Male Location: Outer east - Melbourne Posted 04/08/03 10:13 AM Author Share Posted 04/08/03 10:13 AM Isher said: Its called the "Contribution Method".........Am I making sence here?? Sorry guys, no 300KW APS upgrades going for free here! :nugget: What you are saying makes sense, however, in march this year my lease company sent me a nice letter asking if I had "contributed" to the maintenance and/or running costs of the car. Further more they stated that the ATO required that I provide tax invoices for all claims except fuel/oil where I was only required to make a declaration. I am quite sure that if I "repair" my ECU or exhaust and have a tax invoice to that effect I will have no problems....we'll see I guess.First I have to cover off on the insurance before I change anything. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/#findComment-40626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Isher Guests Posted 04/08/03 10:45 AM Share Posted 04/08/03 10:45 AM richdave said: I am quite sure that if I "repair" my ECU or exhaust and have a tax invoice to that effect I will have no problems....we'll see I guess. I think that's the only way you could get it done. By getting your mechanic to invoice you for some legit maintance while actually carrying out something else like an up-grade or mod.Barry: I suspect that is what BS888 has done.Basically you are relaying on the ignorance of the lease company and informing them that your mod was a legitimate 'service'.It don't worry me but it is still not 'free'. Either way you will be contirbuiting to the cost as part of your salary package contribution. If you allocated $9000 pa to running costs (as caculated by you depending on the number of km's you travel pa..) and you spend $4000 on mods (invoiced as legit maint to get teh salary package company to pay you back..) you will still need to make up the difference at some stage if your running costs excede the $5000 pa remianing in the kitty for legitimate expences.Regards,Isher Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/5191-the-wife-is-a-genius/#findComment-40636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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