My First Defect

[MiKa]

Out on a Friday night doing the RBT would be painfull enough experience if you had to bow to every other p!ssed idiot wanting to be breath tested in order to show off to there also p!issed friends. "I wanna see how high I can get it officer" times 4000 ppl.

Some other legal minefield would also exist for breath testing passengers who then drove somewhere later in the night, crashed and blamed the cops for passing earlier on.

So not stupid, just right and lawfull im my view.

I.B.

I understand what you are saying, but my sister was genuinly concerned, there is no other way to know for sure if your over the limit. She didnt have too much to drink but how can you be sure you not .053? 'Just a little bit over officer' Those hand held bretho devices I doubt they will hold up anywhere worth mentioning, and the machine that I've seen at Crown is a POS, that just takes your money and how do you know if its correct?

All im trying to say is, maybe there should be a means for people to get an accurate BAC reading, and then make up there own mind if they should drive or not.. Im sure a large ammount of people dont realise that they're over the limit and get busted..

My 2c

Dags I was hardly bragging, but yer good advice LOL

[Iconic Bionic]

The easiest way to determine if your fit to drive and not going to be over the limit is to NOT drink anything in the first place. You are not expected to have a p!iss up and then drive home while at 0.049999999 and then calculate all of your drinks, factor in your weight and if you ate throughout the night and then try and explain this 3 months later to some old bloke at court. Why play this silly game of chance in the first place. Dont waste everyones time hunting around for a breath test device. The right thing to do is get a Taxi and not drive if your that unsure. All the typical excuses make no differene when youve killed someone based upon all this uncertainty.

I.B.

[spine]

I agree totally, if your gunna drink leave the car at home.

[tmac450]

It matters little who owns the car park. I'm pretty sure that if it's open to the public, then public road rules apply.

Likewise, an unlicenced driver can't drive a car in an open carpark.

[Iconic Bionic]

What you say has been recetly tested at the NSW supreme court and will have a direct affect for the other states as well. They ruled even further by stating that car parks, even closed to the public permanently or after hours but at some time had been open to the public still fits this public road criteria. Even car parks that are not even open yet or ever been open to the general public, such as a private car park to an office block, if they are so used by the public even against the wishes of the car park owner also fall into this argument.

This came from a pedestrian that was hit by a car in a private car park that had gates and was sealed off to the general public. The pedestrian used the car park as a short cut to get to a service station but the car park only prevented vehicle access and it was so ruled to be a road related area or the equivelant to a public roadway.

I.B.

[DjGsTa]

so you got defected but you didnt get fined?

my mate got defected last night and he got a $180 fine with it