XRSCAR Member 414 Member For: 16y 10m 15d Gender: Male Location: FTG, Victoria Posted 25/10/08 09:16 AM Share Posted 25/10/08 09:16 AM the monster is growing!gonna do much more San? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYCHO XRT THE PSYCHO XRT Donating Members 1,275 Member For: 19y 17d Gender: Not Telling Location: At the lights! Posted 25/10/08 01:32 PM Author Share Posted 25/10/08 01:32 PM Well, thanks to all the guys that replied to my first post and to the "GUYS" that stayed on TOPIC. cheers Anyways San, I told ya we'll get it sorted in the end, I hope the guys at bayswater automatics looked after you, especially since you had to go back and get the valve body changed due to some bizzare drop shift into 3rd gear!When you saw me down at springy motors, I was showing Danny a few things with the auto setting. The shifting should make your box last, without burning clutches on gearshifts again, no more getting your box rebuilt after 2 months.Yes, it was very kind of you to come down and show the courtesy that you did mate. That's why I also came down to Springy and thanked you in person as I knew team work was the key in achieving the best results for not only my car but for anybody's pride and joy. Anyways, took the car back to Bayswater Automatics and bang, problem solved. Great work and service, Highly recommended guys. :]All in all, it goes to show that if the calibration with the auto [hardware and software] is right, you'll end up with a big smile which I have now......the monster is growing!gonna do much more San?I think I've raved on too much about my car already but yeah it's performing 'rightly' and that what matters most. I dont have much planned for it now, I just wanna go and enjoy the thing mate.. lolcheers,San. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKa Donating Members 4,243 Member For: 18y 4m 4d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, VIC Posted 25/10/08 03:09 PM Share Posted 25/10/08 03:09 PM Awsome result San... top effort to Springy ey.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 21y 7m 29d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 25/10/08 10:59 PM Share Posted 25/10/08 10:59 PM Sooooo...Why the change in tuner? What happened to the auto?It's relevant to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ_AK cj_ak Donating Members 5,077 Member For: 17y 5m 24d Gender: Male Location: Ropes Crossing Posted 25/10/08 11:04 PM Share Posted 25/10/08 11:04 PM that's an awesome result mate, well doneany other mods on the cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YPURV4 KILL,KILL,KILL,DIE,DIE,DIE, Member 2,813 Member For: 18y 7m 21d Gender: Male Posted 26/10/08 12:00 AM Share Posted 26/10/08 12:00 AM So who tuned your car then daniel or danny ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM DJP Member 9 Member For: 16y 2m 21d Gender: Male Location: Noble Park Posted 26/10/08 12:57 AM Share Posted 26/10/08 12:57 AM Sooooo...Why the change in tuner? What happened to the auto?It's relevant to the topic.I Obviously can't tell you why the change in tuner but I can tell you that when I got the car after bayswater autos did what ever they did to the auto it was doing weird things at 2-3 shift.I called Bayswater auto's about the issue & was told that they wanted Danny from Headsex to tune the auto & that san should have taken the car to him.As this was Sans choice to take the car where San wanted to take it I ended up with it.So with Bayswater autos not knowing how I set up auto's & Knowing how Danny From Headsex does And recommended him I thought I would call on Danny to get his thoughts & he could then refer onto Bayswater autos with them communicating on a established level Sans auto would be delt with at the best level.As it turned out Danny & I both Thought it was a mechanichal issue That was Pre Baywswater auto's days & it turned out we were right & Bayswater auto's fixed the issue which happend to be as simple as an S5 solinoide failure & some odd valve body mods which were done Pre bayswater auto's days.I then got the car back & did my own full tune keeping in mind what danny had told me that bayswater auto's like there auto's to be set up like.So not much to it really just some good old fashion communication.....Danny (springy motors) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 4m 14d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 26/10/08 05:37 AM Share Posted 26/10/08 05:37 AM So who tuned your car then daniel or danny ???Danny from springy motors didI Obviously can't tell you why the change in tuner but I can tell you that when I got the car after bayswater autos did what ever they did to the auto it was doing weird things at 2-3 shift.I called Bayswater auto's about the issue & was told that they wanted Danny from Headsex to tune the auto & that san should have taken the car to him.As this was Sans choice to take the car where San wanted to take it I ended up with it.So with Bayswater autos not knowing how I set up auto's & Knowing how Danny From Headsex does And recommended him I thought I would call on Danny to get his thoughts & he could then refer onto Bayswater autos with them communicating on a established level Sans auto would be delt with at the best level.As it turned out Danny & I both Thought it was a mechanichal issue That was Pre Baywswater auto's days & it turned out we were right & Bayswater auto's fixed the issue which happend to be as simple as an S5 solinoide failure & some odd valve body mods which were done Pre bayswater auto's days.I then got the car back & did my own full tune keeping in mind what danny had told me that bayswater auto's like there auto's to be set up like.So not much to it really just some good old fashion communication.....Hey Danny, Welcome to the forumsWhen Sans car ended up at Bayswater automatics, Phil pulled apart the box infront of san, The Band was worn, as well as the C1 clutch from memory. Something you wouldn't expect from a box that was 2 months old.Phil said to San that he will rebuild the auto, but leave the valve body modifications as they are, and see if its within spec of being able to tune it. But if it posed a problem, to bring it back and they will replace the valve body modifications with their own.As Phil and I have done alot of R&D on my car, as well as another forum member HiNRG's car, We had pulled the boxes out a number of times, seeing if we could find a good setup both mechanically, and via the tuning to reduce excessive wear on the C1 clutch which is used in 3rd and 4th gear, as well as the band, which is used in 2nd and 4th gear. We came to the conclusion that some smart tuning in the software can make a box hold up. We also discovered that we could very quickly burn out frictions if we poorly tuned the auto. I did kill my first band when I was still running standard injectors. We also experimented with modifications to the BAR and CAR circuits of the valve body to get better Band and Clutch apply presure for cars producing more torque.We also had a ION/BTR/(whatever they are called now) Calibration engineer's input on a number of things, especailly how a auto works in relation to the tables in the pcm which was a valuable resource understanding what was going on.After this R&D and seeing a number of boxes come back with burnt frictions, Bayswater automatics on their own descretion started advising customers based on test driving the car to get their tuner to re-adjust the auto settings, Or, find another tuner.Bayswater Autos have seen instances where they have built a box, and they come back with under 5000k's later because the tune in the car absolutely screwed the box.Alot of the key into making the auto shift somewhat so it wont kill the frictions is to Increase the torque table, rather than decrease it like I've heard ALOT of workshops do(because the throttle shuts on them). The Torque table has a Direct relation to HOW the auto shifts, NOT how much presure to apply during the shift. This is all I'm going to say publically about this, If you want more information, PM me.After San took his car to Springy motors, Danny noticed something bizzare with the shifting that he was unsure of. He called Bayswater automatics for some advice, but since they dont know anything about the tuning side of things, Danny tried his luck and called me. I actually managed to go down to his workshop, and went for a test drive to see what was going on, and after trying a number of my changes in the auto settings, and we managed to get it better, but it still had a problem mechanically with the 2-3 shift. Got on the phone to Phil, and he basically said bring the car back, and they originally changed the force motor(which can normally cause this "drop flare" type problem) but ended up changed the valve body to suit their specs. The car went back to Danny, and I believe the problem has been sorted!San is very happy with his car now. that's ALL that matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENVY-T CNUTOX Donating Members 3,098 Member For: 21y 11m 19d Gender: Male Location: Not sure? Posted 26/10/08 05:43 AM Share Posted 26/10/08 05:43 AM MMMMM Great success!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKa Donating Members 4,243 Member For: 18y 4m 4d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, VIC Posted 26/10/08 06:00 AM Share Posted 26/10/08 06:00 AM Danny (headsex) is not a man of many words.... hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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