Skaife To Retire

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Brock is/was the best!

[tmac450]

  03XR6T said:

Brock is/was the best!

That is very debatable. Brock is touted as the best, purely on his 10 Bathurst wins, and is a lot to do with the marketing hype Expensive Daewoo drummed up around him at the time.

If you disect his Bathurst wins, his king of the mountain crown loses some of it's shine:

Win number 10 (later removed from his CV as a Bathurst win due to the flack he copped for claiming it) was with 3 other drivers in a 7 litre, race prepped Monaro, compeeting against production cars.

Win number 9 was after he lodged a proted against the 1st and 2nd placed Sierras for running incorrect door trims. The winning cars wer disqualified without a right to apeal.

Win 7 or 8 was because he jumped into the lead car towards the end of the race, after his car supposedly failed.

Many of his other wins cam about when he had little or no opposition, right place at the right time. In this case, you can't deny he was the genuine winner, but it hardly qualifies his as the best driver ever.

Looking at other drivers, Larry Perkins and Jim Richards have more genuine wins at Bathurst to their credit, and both of these drivers were sacked by Brock as co-drivers because he couldn't stand sharing the limelight with them.

These days, with parity, and race drivers paid hundreds of thousands to be fine tuned driving machines, it's much harder to do what Brock did, making it near impossible to compare him to the modern day.

[RHR]

Skaife who???

[phantomchic]

well put revhead

hope this starts a trend....spoilt brat RK has just about done his dash as well

[Buf-Phoon]

you're up early

[Dillz]

Member when Ingall tried to run him over

Don't get me wrong, there BOTH f*ckwits.

[phantomchic]

  Buf-Phoon said:

you're up early

its freakin me out

on that note

[jsmith]

the sierra's in 87 had modified inner wheel arches that allowed better suspensions geometry and ride height. justified disqualification if you ask me.

I agree whole heartedly with regards win #10, should never have been claimed. Win number 7 was when he jumped into the #10 car, Will never know the real reason he did that, whether 05 had a mechanical failure or not.

Regardless of your arguments, I still think Brock was king of the mountain but not the best touring car driver the country has ever seen. he only ever had 3 championships to his name while Dick had 5. Personally I think they are damn close to being called equally

back on topic Good riddance Skaife, hope the door hits you in the back of the head on the way out! Oh and while your going please take R.Kelly with you!!!

[mercuryturbo]

It would be nice if Prickelly retired with Skaifey, either that or get hit by a bus.

[F6_jase]

Woteva way you look at it you cant deny that skaife was a great driver, but even great drivers go past their use by date as was seen by the great champ brocky in his last bathurst drive. only my opinion but I dont think its that he has lost his edge as much as all the up and coming drivers are hungrier for wins and push themselves further than he does these days.

cant really compare lowndes to brock at bathurst, look at the technology in the cars these days compared to when he was in his prime, bathurst should be lenghtened to 1500km race so it really tests car and driver like in the old days, as that's wot the race was all about, its just a walk in the park for the cars now.