tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m 4d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 09/12/08 11:55 AM Share Posted 09/12/08 11:55 AM Do I get a gold star? if I had of known you were around I would have posted something oppositional...eg salesmen are scum and deserve to be screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 17y 9m 21d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 09/12/08 12:09 PM Share Posted 09/12/08 12:09 PM No gold star for you!I thought I would take the opportunity to get in before you took a jab at me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSV_LS1 Member 303 Member For: 20y 8m 26d Gender: Male Posted 09/12/08 12:56 PM Share Posted 09/12/08 12:56 PM Correct tab. When the VE Late model camira was launched, Expensive Daewoo slashed prices on VZ HSV stock, they were selling them for $49,990 drive away (Clubsports). This in turn killed resale value on VY and Early VZ product, and I mean really killed it. Expensive Daewoo dealers weren't interested in trading them and to be honest, neither were Ford dealers...Every action has an equal and opposite reaction - this is true in every facet of lifeProblem is that either manufacturer will in the end sell their cars for peanuts when the end of model or in HSV's case, over stock. So paying retail straight up yourself you are just losing that extra 5-10 grand when you get screwed on resale in the future anyway.If the manufactures held their ground then resale shouldn't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 17y 9m 21d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 09/12/08 01:10 PM Share Posted 09/12/08 01:10 PM Unfortunately its not the manufacturer, its the dealers cutting their own throats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 2m 25d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 09/12/08 09:54 PM Share Posted 09/12/08 09:54 PM That's why they're a little smarter in the UK.They register them ans sell them as 2nd hand, that way they don't butcher the new car market.Here many or the dealers are idiots. The Ford dealer near my work puts the original, full ticket retail price on all of their 2nd hand cars stating it's the original price, under that they have their 2nd hand price (usually half or less than the full ticket retail price that no one would have paid in the first place). How the hell are they expected to sell ne cars while in the same yard they are showing over inflated, abysmal resale values?The manufacturers really need to get their acts into gear for their own good.On top of it all, neither Ford or Holden (the biggest victoms of the high fuel prices) have done nothing to promote their large cars now that fuel is cheaper and interest rates are lower. Ford hasn't even made mention of the FGs superior (if marginal) fuel economy.Unfortunatly, if they do go under, they really only have themselves to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_ Member 19 Member For: 16y 3m 12d Posted 11/12/08 03:30 AM Author Share Posted 11/12/08 03:30 AM (edited) On top of it all, neither Ford or Holden (the biggest victoms of the high fuel prices) have done nothing to promote their large cars now that fuel is cheaper and interest rates are lower. Ford hasn't even made mention of the FGs superior (if marginal) fuel economy.Unfortunatly, if they do go under, they really only have themselves to blame.Mate you don't get it do you. Half the globe is in recession, and yes we are heading for one in 2009 wether you like it or not. Interest rates and fuel can be as cheap as chips, doesn't make one difference when the economy has gone into negative growth. People are being laid off every day as we speak. 2009 will be a very tough year. When you don't have a job, you can't afford to buy any new car let alone an FPV or HSV. So this stupid argument about promoting products means SFA. What they can do though to target those few in the economy during these times that have a bit of disposable cash is to sweeten the deal by dropping there prices. If you don't like the resale on your used Ford or Expensive Daewoo taking a hit, then either don't buy new or don't pay full price! Edited 11/12/08 03:30 AM by John_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ras351 Member 219 Member For: 16y 7m 24d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 11/12/08 05:29 AM Share Posted 11/12/08 05:29 AM Either way you look at it they are still a relative performance bargain compared to the likes of AMG, BMW M series and Audi RS. 67k for 310kw (and then some) is a pretty sweet deal compared to what price you had to pay for a 310kw car 5 or 10 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSV_LS1 Member 303 Member For: 20y 8m 26d Gender: Male Posted 11/12/08 06:47 AM Share Posted 11/12/08 06:47 AM Gave a local dealer a try to see what sort of deal they'll do for an F6 with only the brembo upgrade and floor mats. Best that could be offered was around 69 grand on road. He wasn't impressed when I offered 57 grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rspecf6 Banned 138 Member For: 16y 6m 25d Gender: Male Posted 11/12/08 09:46 AM Share Posted 11/12/08 09:46 AM Mate you don't get it do you. Half the globe is in recession, and yes we are heading for one in 2009 wether you like it or not. Interest rates and fuel can be as cheap as chips, doesn't make one difference when the economy has gone into negative growth. People are being laid off every day as we speak. 2009 will be a very tough year. When you don't have a job, you can't afford to buy any new car let alone an FPV or HSV. So this stupid argument about promoting products means SFA. What they can do though to target those few in the economy during these times that have a bit of disposable cash is to sweeten the deal by dropping there prices. If you don't like the resale on your used Ford or Expensive Daewoo taking a hit, then either don't buy new or don't pay full price!in 2009 wether you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrum Member 6 Member For: 18y 2m 27d Posted 11/12/08 10:42 AM Share Posted 11/12/08 10:42 AM and very nice order, would make a great Christmas gift if delivered before Christmas day. Pics Pics :angel:Thanks, unfortunately wont be built to late Jan/Feb 09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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