iTec TEAM BA Donating Members 1,755 Member For: 20y 18d Gender: Male Location: North of The Bridge Posted 09/10/08 04:03 AM Share Posted 09/10/08 04:03 AM best time I got 0-100 is 5.3secs walking it off line at 1500rpm to 2000rpm, squeeze the loud pedal about half way, once you pull about 3000rpm flat to the floor, shift 1st to 2nd at 5500rpm and 2nd to 3rd at 6000rpm and 3rd to 4th at 6000rpm and ring it's neck in 4th which is 180km/h and at that point the 400m is up.that's the way I do it, only I rev a little harder at the start.. more like 2200-2500 to stop it bogging down as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RapidF6 Member 125 Member For: 16y 3m 20d Gender: Male Location: Fremantle, W.A. Posted 09/10/08 04:36 AM Share Posted 09/10/08 04:36 AM There are a couple threads on AFF, I'll dig them up for ya.http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.ph...ighlight=Launchhttp://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.ph...ighlight=LaunchI haven't had much practice with my F6 yet. The first time I tried three runs. Revs at and just above 2000, dumped the clutch and floored it. Bogged down massively.After reading those threads, went out, loaded up the clutch, pulled up the hand brake, gave it around 2000 revs again, and on three separate runs, with slow shifts to second, I think it was safe to say that I managed 0-100km/h in the high 5 second bracket. Not bad considering This is the first manual I've driven in five years. Now I just gotta find some time to go to the drags for some real practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 17y 10m 18d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 09/10/08 05:49 AM Share Posted 09/10/08 05:49 AM Whatever you do, don't just step off the clutch, its a great way to break things! Also, don't bother revving over 5000rpm, especially when its tuned, the turbo isn't doing anything special there. I gained 3mph by lowering my shift points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dule Donating Members 1,180 Member For: 17y 8m 9d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 09/10/08 06:14 AM Share Posted 09/10/08 06:14 AM Another thing to remember is... Throttle is not an on/off switch, feed it progressively, same when backing off if there is too much wheel spin. I love people who complain that they can't take off because they have too much power, they don't seem to realize that you don't have to use all the power, especially in low gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP1D Member Donating Members 3,739 Member For: 18y 7m 6d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 09/10/08 06:59 AM Share Posted 09/10/08 06:59 AM From speaking with a mate that has ran 9s in a manual car, use 1st just to get moving an on boost, then change super fast (rip shifters are gold here) into 2nd, if your fast enough on the change you can leave the foot on the floor and not over rev it.This method does work, and if you can master it, the car launches dam well... its just hard to get right.I found that slipping the clutch alittle against the revs, then more throt, lift clutch a bit more, soon as the front goes up, floor it. When you feel a decent amount of boost, like its just getting up and ready to fry the tyres, pop the clutch, snap 2nd and you should change into 2nd still on boost... feels like a completely different car if it all comes together.You do need a very responsive motor , serious clutch, short/rip shift and tyres that will grip at the cars medium torque level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbocorty Donating Members 178 Member For: 21y 2m 26d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 09/10/08 11:13 AM Share Posted 09/10/08 11:13 AM I have used the following method for years and on every turbo car that I have owned and it seems to work.When I first got my Typhoon all the mag were reporting 14 second 1/4 miles. I grove mine to calder and ran a 13.2 on my first pass (Car completely standard using normal premium feul.)This is my approach (very similar to riding the clutch..but)OK.First you need to understand how the engine produces power and take it into consideration when taking off. The specs for the typhoon are 550Nm of torque @2000 rpm. BUT, this is only under full load. When you rev your motor at 2000rpm in neutral, you actually have less power than a standard BA XT. This is the reason it bogs down if you dump the clutch at 2000 rpm. What you need to do is load up the motor and get boost happening without loosing traction..The simple way to reduce lag on take off is ....(This may be a little hard for me to explain in writing)With the 1 gear selected and the clutch fully pressed, Floor the gas till the motor approaches 5000rpm, release until the revs drop to 3000 and floor it again - repeat this 4 or 5 times (what this is doing is speeding up the turbo more than just holding the revs at 5000 rpm because of the load trying to accelerate the engine's rpm's) .When you are happy that the turbo is up to speed, you back off the accelerator release the clutch in a smooth controlled motion (NOT FULLY!) apply about 1/4 gas and the trick is to try and keep the motors revs at about 2500 whilst riding the clutch. You will need to practice this as it is a combination of clutch and gas that produces the best result. DO NOT just floor the gas as it will wheel spin or fry the clutch.Once the vehicle speed has caught up to the revs (Clutch no longer slipping) release clutch and nail the gas. You should now be on boost and not wheelspining like crazy (Unless you have mods done in wich case you need to feed the gas slower)Anyway, this is my preference and it may not be the best for all vehicles.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 8m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 09/10/08 11:33 AM Share Posted 09/10/08 11:33 AM .... mmmm traction...mmmmm tink tink tink....the sound of CVs smashed and rolling down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RapidF6 Member 125 Member For: 16y 3m 20d Gender: Male Location: Fremantle, W.A. Posted 10/10/08 03:00 AM Share Posted 10/10/08 03:00 AM Whatever you do, don't just step off the clutch, its a great way to break things! Also, don't bother revving over 5000rpm, especially when its tuned, the turbo isn't doing anything special there. I gained 3mph by lowering my shift points.Noted.When do you shift? I shift outta first at around 4000RPM. Then at around 5000, into third.I have used the following method for years and on every turbo car that I have owned and it seems to work.When I first got my Typhoon all the mag were reporting 14 second 1/4 miles. I grove mine to calder and ran a 13.2 on my first pass (Car completely standard using normal premium fuel.)This is my approach (very similar to riding the clutch..but)OK.First you need to understand how the engine produces power and take it into consideration when taking off. The specs for the typhoon are 550Nm of torque @2000 rpm. BUT, this is only under full load. When you rev your motor at 2000rpm in neutral, you actually have less power than a standard BA XT. This is the reason it bogs down if you dump the clutch at 2000 rpm. What you need to do is load up the motor and get boost happening without loosing traction..The simple way to reduce lag on take off is ....(This may be a little hard for me to explain in writing)With the 1 gear selected and the clutch fully pressed, Floor the gas till the motor approaches 5000rpm, release until the revs drop to 3000 and floor it again - repeat this 4 or 5 times (what this is doing is speeding up the turbo more than just holding the revs at 5000 rpm because of the load trying to accelerate the engine's rpm's) .When you are happy that the turbo is up to speed, you back off the accelerator release the clutch in a smooth controlled motion (NOT FULLY!) apply about 1/4 gas and the trick is to try and keep the motors revs at about 2500 whilst riding the clutch. You will need to practice this as it is a combination of clutch and gas that produces the best result. DO NOT just floor the gas as it will wheel spin or fry the clutch.Once the vehicle speed has caught up to the revs (Clutch no longer slipping) release clutch and nail the gas. You should now be on boost and not wheelspining like crazy (Unless you have mods done in which case you need to feed the gas slower)Anyway, this is my preference and it may not be the best for all vehicles.CheersFirstly, UNBELIEVABLE time for a stock manual 'phoon! Well done! If I get high 13's on my first run I'll be really happy.Second, I understood what you wrote, but I have a question. Is it safe for the engine to be revved that hard in neutral? Couldn't you spool up the turbo revving from say 2000-4000RPM? Will have to give this a go. Hopefully I don't bust anything. :D And, finally, how hard is this to do and take off on the last light on the Christmas tree? lolA mates older brother reckons he'll eat me in his ~240rwkw XR8. I wouldn't mind putting him in his place with my stock Typhoon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr6_2001 Member 81 Member For: 17y 8m 3d Gender: Male Location: Radelaide Posted 10/10/08 12:42 PM Share Posted 10/10/08 12:42 PM Whatever you do, don't just step off the clutch, its a great way to break things! Also, don't bother revving over 5000rpm, especially when its tuned, the turbo isn't doing anything special there. I gained 3mph by lowering my shift points.Senna FG seems different if I shift 5000rpm 1st to 2nd I'm slower 0-100 5.5secs , if I shift 5500rpm 1st to 2nd I'm about .2 quicker to 100km/h at 5.3secs only 3400kms on the clock, service dealer told me with about 6-8 thou kms on the clock I should bring these times down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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