Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 3m 3d Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 07/11/08 12:44 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 12:44 AM Nothing to brag about Fords in pretty much the same boat and not that far behind them...These Holden drivers just have absolutely no idea what these cars are capable of...None whatsoever...Come back and see me when you want the 700+KW forum set up..... My point?Theres always someone bigger badder and faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 5m 13d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 07/11/08 02:12 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 02:12 AM Nothing to brag about Fords in pretty much the same boat and not that far behind them...Come back and see me when you want the 700+KW forum set up..... My point?Theres always someone bigger badder and faster. Yeah, but everyone is expecting it with Ford, when in actual fact GM is in much worse shape. Realistically, the worst that will happen is that they'll get split up and sold off. More than likely though, they'll be bailed out in the US.What is your point. The issue is that we're not under the misconception that our cars are the quickest thing going. The main issue here is that there appears to be a trend unique to Expensive Daewoo drivers (from a VK 6cyl to a VE HSV) who beleive their car is the quickest car on the planet.What you did is show us examples of people who realised their cars weren't good enough and had to heavily modify them just to keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our06t Mmmmm......BOOST Member 3,135 Member For: 17y 9m 20d Gender: Male Location: central coast Posted 07/11/08 02:30 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 02:30 AM what ever ya drive that red gto is an awsome machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 5m 13d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 07/11/08 02:44 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 02:44 AM what ever ya drive that red gto is an awsome machineNot to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our06t Mmmmm......BOOST Member 3,135 Member For: 17y 9m 20d Gender: Male Location: central coast Posted 07/11/08 02:49 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 02:49 AM ok it may not go well around a MX track ,other than that if you can't respect a car like that your as bad as the Expensive Daewoo drivers were talkin about here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR6 Member 1,460 Member For: 21y 9m 22d Location: Geelong Victoria Posted 07/11/08 04:56 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 04:56 AM Nothing to brag about Fords in pretty much the same boat and not that far behind them...GM have twice as much debt as Ford have, and they they have a lot less in cash reserves also. Ford are believed to have $33 billion in cash reserves to keep the company going, which may seem like a lot but once that's spent on product development its only a few years worth. GM have next to no money to spend on future product, in fact they just recently announced they have delayed nearly all development of future models by a year as a way of trying to save money, with the exception of the Chev Volt. GM should technically be bankrupt as they have more debt than they do cash. Just a matter of time though. Recently market experts believe once bankruptcy is sought only Chevrolet and Cadillac will survive, with the other brands being sold off, merged or closed up. I don't know wether that means Expensive Daewoo too.Ford are in a better postion for survival, they actually started to get back into the black earlier in the year before the economic crisis took hold, but the plans are in still in place but may take longer to take effect. They also announced last week that they have added a third shift and hired back 1000 redundant workers for the launch of the 2009 F series as demand has well exceeded their expectations. But the economic crisis has battered the US auto market, so things are heading back down again for all of them. Toyota have actually copped it worse in the US than anyone, sales are down a staggering 33%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 5m 13d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 07/11/08 06:01 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 06:01 AM ok it may not go well around a MX track ,other than that if you can't respect a car like that your as bad as the Expensive Daewoo drivers were talkin about hereWhy? I can acknowledge that the car would no doubt be a weapon. I can acknowledge that quite a few people would think it's fantastic (both things that we're saying the Expensive Daewoo drover's we're complaining about are incapable of).It's just not my cup of tea. So to me it's not awesome. Now a F430, that's awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 3m 3d Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 07/11/08 07:13 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 07:13 AM The issue is that we're not under the misconception that our cars are the quickest thing going.If you go back and read this thread from start to finish I think you'll come across quite a number of posters who think they are...No point preaching to me I'm a Holden driving XR6T moderator, I have two eyes and use them as often as possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 9m 23d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 07/11/08 08:15 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 08:15 AM They're obviously not working too well...have you looked at what you're driving??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley Scott www.australianflag.org.au Donating Members 6,763 Member For: 19y 7m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 07/11/08 08:16 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 08:16 AM Oh goody a kick dags in the head thread, how nice of someone to start this.Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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