tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 8m 14d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 10/09/08 05:22 AM Share Posted 10/09/08 05:22 AM No one's forgetting that at all.Expensive Daewoo have a very long history in motorsport of maniplulating the rules to suit themselves.Ford finally (after nearly 10 years of playing second fiddle by a long way) threatened to pull out unless the issues were addressed. The differences were certainly a hell of a lot bigger than 1 tenth of a second.Also, if you actually know the history of the issues, you'd know that what Ford got was the approval to use the very aero kit that was taken off them and given to Expensive Daewoo 10 years earlier.Now Expensive Daewoo is again seeking to have the Ford's penalised simply because they're not winning every race they go in.Let's look at it even closer, it really only comes down to the Walkinshaw teams, who by Garth Tander's admission are struggling with their own set-ups this year. In the last few years it has really only been the 4 Walkinshaw cars that have dominated, while the rest of the Holdens in the field were well off the pace. This year the other Commodores appear to be on about the same pace as last year, as do the Fords, but the Walkinshaw cars aren't.So who's forgetting what now?Like I keep saying, the simples way to solve this parity bullsh*t is to go back to a production car, or even group C category. In the current form, the manufacturers have no real incentives to make improvements to their road cars (GTs, Monaros, disk brakes, performance models etc are all products of production car racing). Go back to production cars or group C where whoever makes the best car wins. That way we win because the road cars will become better, and the racing will continually change as manufacturers develop their machines. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-731314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 21y 23d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 10/09/08 05:35 AM Share Posted 10/09/08 05:35 AM What I find the most humurous is the bloke leading this charge is not winning races because he keeps running off the road...that's got sweet FA to do with Ford and their aero packages.And you're spot on tmac, it's funny how it's all fine and dandy until they can't keep up anymore while nothing has actually changed as far as parity is concerned. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-731319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomchic Just because it is, doesn't mean it should be..... Lifetime Members 14,092 Member For: 20y 8m 6d Gender: Female Location: Noosa QLD Posted 10/09/08 11:41 AM Share Posted 10/09/08 11:41 AM and hey if all else failsthey just run 'em off the track Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-731561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dule Donating Members 1,180 Member For: 18y 1m 2d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 10/09/08 01:26 PM Share Posted 10/09/08 01:26 PM tmac450 said: Like I keep saying, the simples way to solve this parity bullsh*t is to go back to a production car, or even group C category. In the current form, the manufacturers have no real incentives to make improvements to their road cars (GTs, Monaros, disk brakes, performance models etc are all products of production car racing). Go back to production cars or group C where whoever makes the best car wins. That way we win because the road cars will become better, and the racing will continually change as manufacturers develop their machines.Mate this is a great point, this has nothing to do with production cars. Go back to production and let the best car win. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-731634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboost Member 1,204 Member For: 20y 11m 21d Gender: Male Location: Mackay NorthQueensland Posted 10/09/08 09:37 PM Share Posted 10/09/08 09:37 PM maybe they should of spent 2 billon on them panels. if they take a bit of downforce off the front of the ve, that will give them the speed they are looking for. David Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-731759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Monkey Member 685 Member For: 17y 5m 9d Gender: Male Location: brisvagas / Manly Posted 11/09/08 12:42 PM Share Posted 11/09/08 12:42 PM I think uncle chop chop needs to pay them a viset and tell them to Harden the fu(k up. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-732229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 8m 14d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 16/09/08 10:56 PM Share Posted 16/09/08 10:56 PM Expensive Daewoo won, we'd better penalise them and get them slowed down!After Philip Island, Tander should protest about the lack of tallent in the Expensive Daewoo driver line-up, making it harder for them to compete in endurance races when they're paired up.If you saw any of the 500, you notice some massive differences in driving talents, more so in the Expensive Daewoo teams. Every time Tander drove they ripped through the feild, when Skaife jumped in they went backwards at an even faster rate. Same for Ingall and Morris (at least Morris has his big guts as an excuse, making it harder to steer and weighing the car down). I didn't see any of the front running Expensive Daewoo teams with top form pairings.For most of the Fords, the top line driver pairings were incrediable strong. The outcome wasn't great for them (much of that down to the luck of the pace cars, etc), but they definatly had the stronger pairings.I think AVESCO needs to address the driver pairings before Bathurst for the sake of parity. For example, if HRT uses Skaife and Tander together and 888 uses Lownds and Wincup, then either Lownds or Wincup has to have an arm and a leg removed in order to bring them back in line with Skaife's skill level.If FPV uses Richards and Winterbottom again and Sirromet uses Ingall and Morris, Richards or Winterbottom have to have half of their brain removed, and gain 150kgs in order to be on par with Morris.Now that's parity racing! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-735669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercuryturbo Oh look.... a real car, with no hair dryer Donating Members 1,724 Member For: 18y 9m 8d Gender: Male Location: Fear and Loathing in Callala Bay Posted 16/09/08 11:18 PM Share Posted 16/09/08 11:18 PM Lol, its funny cause its true.Paul Morris coudnt drive a greasy stick up a dogs ass & poor old Skaifey isnt much better at the moment. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-735674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 21y 23d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 16/09/08 11:46 PM Share Posted 16/09/08 11:46 PM Well said tmac That Morris is just simply a waste of oxygen. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-735680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 8m 14d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 17/09/08 02:30 AM Share Posted 17/09/08 02:30 AM Did you hear his comments on Saturday, suggesting Ingall punt Courtney out of his way in the 14 lap race. Cams should strip his licence with an attitude like that. He's lucky mummy and daddy a rich and pay for him to race. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/49533-whinging-biatches/page/2/#findComment-735754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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