ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 6m 1d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 26/09/08 12:39 PM Share Posted 26/09/08 12:39 PM I have a vapour gas set up in my t and the tuner is having problems with the siemans injectors scaling to the gas injectors can you or pit lane explain the scaling you are talking about cheers GUnlike vapour injection lpg, the liquid injection system does not use an ecu to control injector flow rates to get the correct air fuel ratio for the gas. The liquid system has to have the flow of the gas injectors matched to the existing injectors.In your case, you have to have both ecu's tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCTXR6 Member 295 Member For: 16y 7m 15d Gender: Male Location: CANNINGVALE wa Posted 26/09/08 12:54 PM Share Posted 26/09/08 12:54 PM (edited) Unlike vapour injection lpg, the liquid injection system does not use an ecu to control injector flow rates to get the correct air fuel ratio for the gas. The liquid system has to have the flow of the gas injectors matched to the existing injectors.In your case, you have to have both ecu's tuned.hmmm im banging my head against a brick wall over hereive had it on gas for about 4 months now and he cant get the gas injectors to flow enough (even brown dots???)im running out of options he,s even talking about puttin the std inj back in it I can boost it to about 5psi them it stumbles other than that its fine and doing 280km for 47l around town cars custom tuned to 245rwkw ,im ready for another tune to suit my new cooler and exhaust so im nearly goin to leave the gas as it is and just get it tuned again and turn it to pet when I want to squirt it sorry for hi jacking your thread but I might need to talk privatley with you when conveniant Edited 26/09/08 12:55 PM by GCTXR6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 6m 1d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 27/09/08 12:30 AM Share Posted 27/09/08 12:30 AM To overcome the problems you are experiencing, so conversions will switch back to petrol under boost, that may be an option for you or the only other choices are a different vapour injection kit or rip the whole lot out and put it on liquid, but that would be a very costlt exercise coinsidereing what you have allready spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pube Member 159 Member For: 17y 6m 14d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 30/09/08 04:32 AM Share Posted 30/09/08 04:32 AM worm, whats the latest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaMmYJ Member 28 Member For: 16y 8m 25d Gender: Male Location: Pascoe vale Posted 30/09/08 05:27 AM Share Posted 30/09/08 05:27 AM yes worm whats the latest , I have been checking every hour for an update ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm A much better forum Silver Donating Members 3,808 Member For: 16y 4m 5d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 30/09/08 07:00 AM Author Share Posted 30/09/08 07:00 AM worm, whats the latest?Sorry boys.. Update...Swift had a problem getting it running well on gas, so Hilbert from the Australian LPG Warehouse was coming to look at it at Pit Lane Autos today... So I will find out what is happening.It is all installed fine, just not running as well as it should... Maybe they have not wired the lume from the ICU to ECU properley? Anyway, Hilbert is the man who designed the system, so he should be able to work it out.So, in the mean time, Mick went to put the new 12psi actuator on my turbo... And when he went to put it on, found that one of the bolts was gone and one of them had fallen out onto the engine bay... So we decided to put in new turbo bolts designed by Nizpro that are not supposed to loosen as the original ones do...So we had to take the turbo off... Mick says to me... "I am going to spend some money"... LOL... I think he meant... "I am going to spend some OF YOUR money"... anyway, he said that whilst we have the turbo off, we may as well port the wastegate and fit a larger flapper valve (I am now going to call this the "whore" valve, as it has a larger flap) as I intend to move to an XFORCE 4 inch dump with with 3.5 inch exhaust in the near future... No point taking the turbo off again later, so may as well do it all at once... :-)So, I haven't heard from Mick about the gas today, except that Hilbert was coming in to look at it this arvo. We also had a problem with the VCT sensor on the right hand side of the engine, so I am not sure if this was affecting the gas system. And of course FORD being the dumbarses that they are, sent Mick the wrong part... Talk about waste people's time... Hopefully Hilbert will work out the gas this arvo and my car will be tuned on both gas and petrol tomorrow... And I will be able to join the 300+ club!!! I will let everyone know tomorrow night how it goes... My list of mods are:Nizpro Valve Springs X Force 3.5 inch cat, with twin 2.5 exhausts (Not mandrel bent upgrading soon to full XFORCE stainless with 4 inch dump and 3.5 full mandrel bent) Wastegate ported with larger flapper Rapid V3 kit (f*cking awesome piece of kit, sounds like a jet! Includes Under Battery CAI, hot and cold side piping)Walbro Fuel Pump Seimens 60lb Injectors 12PSI actuatorLiquid Gas Injection with recalibrated injectors to match flow rate of 60lbs injectorsAnd lastly a custom tune @ Pit Lane... (Tomorrow)Hope to give you some good news tomorrow night...Oh, and thanks to Mick @ Pit Lane... Working his arse off for me and other forum members!!! Thanks mate! Worm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ_AK cj_ak Donating Members 5,077 Member For: 17y 4m 28d Gender: Male Location: Ropes Crossing Posted 30/09/08 07:06 AM Share Posted 30/09/08 07:06 AM look forward to it mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm A much better forum Silver Donating Members 3,808 Member For: 16y 4m 5d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 30/09/08 08:20 AM Author Share Posted 30/09/08 08:20 AM NOT AS MUCH AS ME!!!! I think I may have to take a change of undies when I pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYCHO XRT THE PSYCHO XRT Donating Members 1,275 Member For: 18y 11m 20d Gender: Not Telling Location: At the lights! Posted 30/09/08 08:42 AM Share Posted 30/09/08 08:42 AM Sounds like it will a fun come tommorrow. Good luck with it all m8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pube Member 159 Member For: 17y 6m 14d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 30/09/08 10:16 AM Share Posted 30/09/08 10:16 AM NOT AS MUCH AS ME!!!! I think I may have to take a change of undies when I pick it up.and dont forget a box of tissues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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