Worm A much better forum Silver Donating Members 3,808 Member For: 16y 4m 1d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 05/11/08 09:56 AM Author Share Posted 05/11/08 09:56 AM Just claim you made it faster with some of your PitLane Magic!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman The Cleaning Dudes Ute Silver Donating Members 1,308 Member For: 18y 7m 12d Gender: Male Location: Bentleigh, Vic, Australia Posted 05/11/08 05:05 PM Share Posted 05/11/08 05:05 PM Far out! 350+ Top work Worm!Can't wait to see it.Does the car sound any different on gas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INASNT Member 361 Member For: 18y 3m 3d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 05/11/08 09:47 PM Share Posted 05/11/08 09:47 PM Nice work worm, might have to come over and see it this weekend if I have any time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2sam Member 52 Member For: 16y 3m 7d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 07/11/08 10:52 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 10:52 AM Pitlane,Was it the injenctors or the new tune that achieved the massive fuel reduction and better idle quality?Hey Worm,Really interested to get your feedback on the way it drives now. What is the power delivery like now compared to when you had the larger injectors? What difference is there in the idle quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm A much better forum Silver Donating Members 3,808 Member For: 16y 4m 1d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 07/11/08 11:06 AM Author Share Posted 07/11/08 11:06 AM Sam... To be honest... The smaller injectors provide a much better idle...I had heard before that some guys were getting an average idle from the Siemens and I can tell you now, it is much better with the bosch's... When it had the 60lb injectors in it, it sounded like it had a little miss when idling... Now it is sweet...Power delivery is much the same... LOL can't really tell... Still just wheelspins if you give it a bit of stick... For the power I was chasing, the 42lb injectors are great. I dont want any more and wont be chasing any more kw... Maybe just less boost with a better exhaust... Want to keep the bottom end in tact... The 968's are maxed out now...The 42lb injectors are around $200 more, but if you want less than or around 350rwkw, I would recommend these... definitely if you want liquid gas...Worm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2sam Member 52 Member For: 16y 3m 7d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 07/11/08 11:40 AM Share Posted 07/11/08 11:40 AM Worm,What impressed me most is the gain in fuel economy that you have achieved. Would I be correct in saying that your car is now more economical than standard? I was at a recent forum conducted by Nizpro Bayswater in which they were showiung their products and giving you a taste of what they can achieve. One of their kits, which is similar to yours with the addition of a new top piece of the inlet manifold made 380RWK in XR6 turbo's with I think they said better than standard fuel economy. I am like you ie I want to keep the bottom end together. Appararently late model BF's ie late 2006 have the strongest bottom ends and will happily live with that power output.I am watching your project carefully as I want to go liquid LPG also with an increase in power. I currently have a BA with an stage II APS kit putting out 280 RWK, good for a best of 12.5 second quarter (very inconsistent however. Ideally I may switch to a BF for the stronger bottom end and the ZF, will see how I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 5m 28d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 07/11/08 10:06 PM Share Posted 07/11/08 10:06 PM Worms car was not retuned, the existing tune was altered to suit the new injectors and a slight change was made to the midrange fuel curve to level it out a bit and some boost pulled out at 3000 rpm.The power difference is probably from more favourable conditions the car was run in, ie not as much heat soak through the engine etc like when it had when it was originally tuned.With worms car and the gas situation it was cirtical to get the petrol long term and short term fuel trims 100% accurate as possible as, the gas injectors follow the same signal, both sets of petrol injectors were calibrated to get fuel trims close to zero as possible and the acheived fuel curve as commanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2sam Member 52 Member For: 16y 3m 7d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 08/11/08 01:09 AM Share Posted 08/11/08 01:09 AM Pitlane,Thanks for the feedback, What are your thoughts regarding the improvement in fuel ecomomy and better idle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 18y 5m 28d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 08/11/08 09:19 AM Share Posted 08/11/08 09:19 AM The car runs in closed loop while at idle, cruise and light throttle applications so in theory everything should be the same.I'm not going to get into a discussion about different brands of products being better than others as opinions are like a##holes, everyone has one.I have fitted or tuned lots of turbos using a common type of injector and different cars appear to have different idle qualities no matter what is altered in the tune, I'm not against using this common type injector as they are good value for money, in fact my wifes car runs the common injector.I'm glad worn is now even happier with his car, but the aim of replacing the injector was purely for the liquid gas compatability, nothing to do with how the car ran or performed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm A much better forum Silver Donating Members 3,808 Member For: 16y 4m 1d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 08/11/08 09:52 AM Author Share Posted 08/11/08 09:52 AM That is true... I was more than happy with the Siemens... I am just even happier with the Boschs...I gave it a hiding today... And if I had have done it with my old injectors, I reckon it would have averaged 18-19L/100(from prev experience)... But it was only 13.6L/100... I was trying some different launching techniques, so I was using a fair bit of throttle... I am very impressed with the 968s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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