Newbie Oil Question

[spic]

Maybe a silly question, just done 1,000kms in my new FG XR6T and was planning on changing the oil as I believe 3,000kms is too long.

Does anyone know whether changing it early is a concern as I'm not sure whether they put in special oil prior to the 1st service?

I'm a bit padantic and common sense tells me their will be alot of metail in the oil and would be good to get it out.

[seventytwo]

Give the running in oil a chance to work, it will take a few thousand Ks for every thing to bed in. Most people change it out around the 5k mark

[Benny]

I think general opinion is to run the original oil for around 3000k's and then change to a full synthetic. That's what I'll be doing. I'm sure there'll be some contamination from engine build etc.

[spic]

Thanks guys for the replies.

So the initial oil they put in is different.

[PHANTMXR6]

It all depends on how you run it in as to when you change your oil.

I did 959kms of hard accelarating in fourth fifth and sixth and then changed my oil.

I didn't go to fully synthetic however, and will probably change it again after about 5000kms.

I will then be running fully synthetic oil for the rest of it's life.

[F6Rdodg'nroos]

Oil change at 1000kms is too soon - let the run in oil (15W40Mineral oil) do its thing, and generate the right amount of cylinder honing and bearing beadding in. The initial bedding in takes at least 3000kms, varying engine speed every 5-10min.

First oil change at 3000k's is fine - but should keep it mineral (GTX 15W40) or semi synthetic (Magnatec/SynGuard or similar 10W40), varying engine speed regularly and putting some heavy load on the engine from 3000kms onwards.

Then changing every 3000km or 5000km allows final bedding in.

Mineral oil is critical to running these engines in. I have recently questioned FPV on this topic - and their engineers stated to keep mineral oil (or semi synthetic mineral oil) in until 15,000kms at the earliest, then they state its fine to go Synthetic (Castrol Edge 10/60 reccomended now by FPV and Castrol).

[Trough Lolly]

F6Rdodg'nroos I agree, I wouldnt be using a full synthetic until atleast 10,000 or more.

an oil such as magnatec is fine for the first 10 thou.. then after that go for what u want.

[CJ_AK]

I agree. My dealer at Thompson said the same thing to me the day I picked up my new T.

[PHANTMXR6]

  F6Rdodg said:

Oil change at 1000kms is too soon - let the run in oil (15W40Mineral oil) do its thing, and generate the right amount of cylinder honing and bearing beadding in. The initial bedding in takes at least 3000kms, varying engine speed every 5-10min.

First oil change at 3000k's is fine - but should keep it mineral (GTX 15W40) or semi synthetic (Magnatec/SynGuard or similar 10W40), varying engine speed regularly and putting some heavy load on the engine from 3000kms onwards.

Then changing every 3000km or 5000km allows final bedding in.

Mineral oil is critical to running these engines in. I have recently questioned FPV on this topic - and their engineers stated to keep mineral oil (or semi synthetic mineral oil) in until 15,000kms at the earliest, then they state its fine to go Synthetic (Castrol Edge 10/60 reccomended now by FPV and Castrol).

Who says 1000kms is too soon to change your oil?

Do you do 1000kms on a dyno before changing oil? I don't think so.

I'm a mechanic by trade and I feel that the run in process I used plus the 1000kms of driving I did on the initial oil is plenty.

I'm still using mineral oil at the moment but I won't hesitate to be putting in fully synthetic when I get to the 5k mark.

Ambient temp where I live is generally high 30 degrees low 40's for most of the year and I would feel much more comfortable knowing I've got some added protection from oil breakdown due to high temps by using synthetic.

[F6Rdodg'nroos]

Easy mate - I was answering question from the thread starter (system replaces his user name with *beep* when I type it in! lol)

You're entitled to your opinion. Lets not make this another oil/running in thread (do a search -there are plenty of them).

A lot of people request to do the first change at the 3000km courtesy service (oil change is extra).

I was providing info from what the FPV engineers had quoted and sharing this info. They state that 3000kms is the best time to do the first change, and they (Ford) build these engines, so it seems that would be worth mentioning.

Edited 12/07/08 09:57 AM by F6Rdodg'nroos