Apple Fans

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And like I said, there was no attack, just pointing out the fact that none of what you have said adds up.

Oh and I've responded to your invite for everyone's information on this forum....was I supposed to be intimidated by that?

[F6 RAPID]

I have a new imac at home and just picked up a new Macbook pro a couple of weeks ago. Once you go Mac, you'll never go back.

Love 'em! Didn't realise how sh*te the other was until now.

[ubute]

I agree with iTec about the whole people thinking micro$oft is evil. If Bill Gates and Microsoft is evil, then Steve Jobs and Apple is the Antichrist. The iPod is a perfect example of how they've manipulated the functionality of the software to suit their own agenda and not the user that actually buys the product.

I wouldn't mind giving a Mac a go, but the majority of the software I use is specialized or proprietary stuff built for windows.

As for Windows being virus/spyware laden as opposed to Mac OS, you don't go indiscriminately shagging everyone without a condom so why do the same without antivirus with windows. Mac OS on the other hand is like shagging a blowup doll. Eventually when more and more people start using the same blowup doll, one day someone nasty will want to have a crack at it and then you'll start finding things that shouldn't be there because everyone thinks it is totally safe and there's no need to ever take any precautions with it.

[wiresquire]

....(Macs OS is linux based, they run on Intel chipsets, there can not be that much to it anymore)....

....im actually thinking of doing some linux stuff so I can learn the mac inside and out...

Err, Mac OS is based on BSD, not Linux. Though they do share a lot of Unix concepts and higher level stuff.

BTW, I just think the competition is good.

[Full Monty]

As a graphic Designer in the industry for over 10 years, I have always used mac's, Have seen them grow up, from my first 6600 to my latest Intel Mac Pro.

The only non Mac Hardware I use, is my Benq 24" monitior, as it is more flexible with inputs than the mac equivalent.

I use an Intel Mac Pro at work, same at home, Iphone, 2x ipods, shuffle etc etc.

Ive used p.c's and Im not a p.c hater, but since the release of the Intel Mac pro's you can have the best of both worlds, my mac makes an awesome gaming rig, with 4gb ram , ATI radeon graphics card, running in bootcamp to play all my racing sims...with a g25 logitech wheel / shifter

couldnt be happier. for both work and play.

Ohh btw I love my microsoft xbox!

I wonder if apple will get into the gaming console industry???

Edited 30/06/08 12:24 AM by Full Monty

[ZAP]

Mac have their place in this world for the freeks, fortunatly 90% of the world uses Windows/PC and do not need to suffer the same hyper defensive inferiority complex that I see most Mac users suffering.

Macs are made for people, PC/Windows are made for working. A computer is a Tool/Toy and not a friend.

I do not see why Mac users always seem to get all worked up over how reliable they are. In the last 5 years PCs have become just as reliable as Macs as they have the same hardware and very similar stable operating systems. As for Defraging, Viruses and Trojans, they are just as much of a problem on a Mac as with a PC, the main difference is that Mac users are complaicent about these attacks and get infected more often.

[Twisty]

I work for an Apple Premium Reseller, so to all of you who said Mac's are bad for business.... they're great for mine!

In response to comments about gaming on a mac, yes for years now the Mac has been lacking in the gaming department. Now they they are running intel processors and high end graphics cards they are in a far better position. EA games have said that from now on they will release Ma versions of all their games at the same time as the PC version, instead of making Mac users wait.

That being said, from my experiences and from what I've heard while attending MacWorld, and WWDC (world wide developers conference) most of the gaming software companys are pushing for console based gaming. PS3's and XBOX 360's are built with one thing in mind... gaming. PC's will soon be left out in the cold with the Macs in the gaming scene, with most of the gaming developments being made for consoles.

wesleyt - if you're using Open Office out of protest, you would protesting louder by using Apple iWork... it can open any office files, and you can save any of you files in an office format that can then be opened by someone using office on a PC. It has a equivalent program for word, excel and powerpoint.

Edited 30/06/08 12:46 AM by Twisty

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Mac have their place in this world for the freeks, fortunatly 90% of the world uses Windows/PC and do not need to suffer the same hyper defensive inferiority complex that I see most Mac users suffering.

Macs are made for people, PC/Windows are made for working. A computer is a Tool/Toy and not a friend.

I do not see why Mac users always seem to get all worked up over how reliable they are. In the last 5 years PCs have become just as reliable as Macs as they have the same hardware and very similar stable operating systems. As for Defraging, Viruses and Trojans, they are just as much of a problem on a Mac as with a PC, the main difference is that Mac users are complaicent about these attacks and get infected more often.

I reckon you've missed the mark there ZAP. I think you've had a limited exposure to Mac users, as most don't feel the need to push Apple on everyone else. I frequently get the "why the f*ck do you use Mac" from PC users though. Perhaps we both work with/around people who don't like our computer choice - for whatever reason...

I entirely disagree with PC's being as reliable. I have both PC and Macs personally, as well as 5 macs here at work, and 20-25 PCs. It's a mixed back of new and old and the PC's are definitely the trouble children. Macs aren't bulletproof, but they're certainly more stable as a general rule.

Viruses and defragging aren't a problem at all on a Mac. Mac users aren't inherently more understanding or complacent than a PC user. I've broken many keyboards with the good-old fist slam or throwing it against a filing cabinet. They f*ck up. Just not as frequently as a PC. I'm sure you were fishing on that last comment, as "the get infected more often" is far from the truth.

wesleyt - if you're using Open Office out of protest, you would protesting louder by using Apple iWork... it can open any office files, and you can save any of you files in an office format that can then be opened by someone using office on a PC. It has a equivalent program for word, excel and powerpoint.

This is true, but it's too new to find a hacked version yet. It even opened a dirty .docx file earlier, but wouldn't print it cause I don't have the licence for the damn software.

[Twisty]

There are copies of iWork available from all Major torrent sites...

Grudgee - PM sent

Edited 30/06/08 04:00 AM by Twisty

[ZAP]

I have had a lot to do with Apple users and their views on PC users.

With reliability comments, they are rarely put in a cost comparison.

Your avearge Mac will be around the $2,000, where a PC will be $1,000.

If you went out and payed more for a HP or Lenovo business PC for $2,000 you will have a PC that would be equal or more reliable than a Mac.

The Mac users that say their PCs always give them trouble are usually the ones who have clone yumcha PCs that are not engineered.

We only sell IBM/Lenovo and would sell on average 10-30 PCs per month. We rarely have a fault with any of them and they will happily tick along for 3 years trouble free.

The main problems happen when you are mixing untested combinations of hardware and drivers.

I also know many Mac users who have had significant problems with their Macs, but this is the same with any mass produced product.

There is a very good reason why 90% of the world uses Windows/PC and this is because it works well. The only reason Apple is gaining in popularity is because it has a great OS and can also run Windows when required.

I am not saying Macs are bad, but most Mac users seem to live in fantasy land when they talk about "never" having issues with their machines, when they have the same amount of problems as a PC/Windows user.