New Motor Mag Out... Im Stumped?

[Flukey]

Too true, I'm just going on my current situation, I have AU XR6 Auto, and my mate has the

same in a manaul and he always beats me off the lights and stays half a car infront all the way.

The manual wins because they are both NA's.

Around here the autos are quicker.

[Penko]

I can add a little opinion to this thread from my minimal experiences with typhoons lol.

I have put an order in for a new F6, but before I did that I test drove the BF, both manual and auto. (Never drove a XR6T or F6 before, coming form HSV and always owning V8’s)

1st thing I want to do is take back all the negative things I thought about the F6 when it came out lol, omg what a weapon.

But one thing I did notice is the auto was defiantly quicker than the manual F6 and I mean noticeable quicker. I couldn’t put my finger on why, until of course I realised it doesn’t lose boost through gear changes. This is coming from a guy who had never driven a 6T ford and from no information or biased opinion, noticed the auto was quicker.

However that doesn’t mean I like the auto better as I have fun driving manuals and thus even though I might sacrifice a few tenths, have ordered a manual

Cheers

[blueboost]

Hey guys,

The general opinion on this site is that motor mag get the best times out of cars in performance testing? I just recievd the new motor magazine and was a little dissapointed in the times they got with a manual FG XR6T?

Ok they say the gravelly airport was the problem but most the other cars in the field were pulling of there normal times.... XR6T did 1/4 mile in 14 flat and 0 -100 in 6 flat.....

That is almost 1 sec slower than previous manual tests to 100 and atleast half a second slower in the 1/4 mile..

Lets say the gravel had a big part to do with it what about acceleration from 80 - 100.. Gravel effect would be alot less abstructive in this test... but still times are off I mean way off...

have a look at this.....

motor june edition: 1/4 mile 13.5 at 172k's motor july edition: 1/4mile 14.0 at 172k's

0-100 5.2secs 0 - 100 6.0 secs

80 - 120 in 3rd 3.0 secs 80 - 120 in 3rd 3.4secs

80 - 120 in 4th 3.9secs 80 - 120 in 4th 4.5secs

80 - 120 in 5th 6.3secs 80 - 120 in 5th 7.0secs

80 - 120 in 6th 9.7 secs 80 - 120 in 6th 11.9secs

each gear up get gradually worse and look at 6th gear?

Also there is a write up FPV V HSV....

I dont understand??

F6 still hasnt pulled of a 1/4 as quick at the auto XR6T has?? and sum how the FG GT was 1 sec slower around winton in thi edition to last one? I can understand a couple hundreths but 1 secs?

mmm I didnt have much faith in mag times anyway but this 1 has just made me think there full opf sh*t....

if you have a look at the kph, they are the same, so the car had the same power, a stock bf xr6t was running around 163kph, so there is a big improvement, the rest is down to driver.

you all will fine the same thing if you go to the drags, one person will run a 12.9, and anouther one with the same car, will run a 14.2,

so what we are seeing now in the kph figures are;

xr6t 172kph f6 179 kph GT 169kph GTS 167kph xr8 will be about 163 kph,

this shows real hp.

David

[bcl]

I agree, I havnt had auto in my car ever beat me in my manual... like I say a good manual driven car is faster than a auto.

What times do you run at the drags, and in what car?

Brian

[xr6_2001]

When I talk about Manual vs Auto, I'm talking stock cars the same on the street.

The drags is different story, as most cars are modified, ie Auto with Hi-Stall, sticky tyres etc.

and I think ford designed these cars to be used on the street, that's where 99% of my drags are gonna be,if I wanted to goto the drags, I'd just buy a 351 and stroke it and put cheese cutters on the front :roll:

[FG-XR6T]

exactly xr6 2001. If people start talking about drag racing on the track, how many of those cars are stock? most people with autos are running a high stall which ofcourse is going to be quicker. I havt gone to the track in my car becuase its pretty much stock and its not that fast, but from my experiance the same car in auto cant keep up.

Let me get this straight, peoples general conception is that a auto HSV would be faster than a manual?or an xr8 in that matter? If the xr6t auto is faster than manual it would be minimal and to be honest I dont belive it. Thiere is another thread on this site in whihc a bloke drove the FG XR6T auto and manual and said the manual smoked the auto every time? Should we trust a bloke that's driven both?

[xr6_2001]

FG-XR6T, firstly sorry for hijacking your thread and turning this into a Auto vs Manual,

ditto to what you said, I agree.

And to why the XR6T was slower in this issue of Motor is simple they didn't tell you that they were that excited about the turbo they thrashed it before the runs and the engine had heat soak :roll:

[FG-XR6T]

hahah spot on mate..... no stress about the hijacking. I just love a good debate. Unfortunatley there will never be a right or wrong in these discusionS.

[Venom XR6]

exactly xr6 2001. If people start talking about drag racing on the track, how many of those cars are stock? most people with autos are running a high stall which ofcourse is going to be quicker. I havt gone to the track in my car becuase its pretty much stock and its not that fast, but from my experiance the same car in auto cant keep up.

Let me get this straight, peoples general conception is that a auto HSV would be faster than a manual?or an xr8 in that matter? If the xr6t auto is faster than manual it would be minimal and to be honest I dont belive it. Thiere is another thread on this site in whihc a bloke drove the FG XR6T auto and manual and said the manual smoked the auto every time? Should we trust a bloke that's driven both?

Then why, when you compare stock auto Vs stock manual on the strip the autos are usually always faster, especially F6's. Autos are easier to get off the line and don't drop boost between shifts.

[tab]

Thiere is another thread on this site in whihc a bloke drove the FG XR6T auto and manual and said the manual smoked the auto every time? Should we trust a bloke that's driven both?

Could be wrong but I think he was referring to 'off the line' with the new anti-lag.....still the same age-old issue when you reach the end of first gear though.

Simple rule: Turbo + Auto =