New Motor Mag Out... Im Stumped?

[FG-XR6T]

Hey guys,

The general opinion on this site is that motor mag get the best times out of cars in performance testing? I just recievd the new motor magazine and was a little dissapointed in the times they got with a manual FG XR6T?

Ok they say the gravelly airport was the problem but most the other cars in the field were pulling of there normal times.... XR6T did 1/4 mile in 14 flat and 0 -100 in 6 flat.....

That is almost 1 sec slower than previous manual tests to 100 and atleast half a second slower in the 1/4 mile..

Lets say the gravel had a big part to do with it what about acceleration from 80 - 100.. Gravel effect would be alot less abstructive in this test... but still times are off I mean way off...

have a look at this.....

motor june edition: 1/4 mile 13.5 at 172k's motor july edition: 1/4mile 14.0 at 172k's

0-100 5.2secs 0 - 100 6.0 secs

80 - 120 in 3rd 3.0 secs 80 - 120 in 3rd 3.4secs

80 - 120 in 4th 3.9secs 80 - 120 in 4th 4.5secs

80 - 120 in 5th 6.3secs 80 - 120 in 5th 7.0secs

80 - 120 in 6th 9.7 secs 80 - 120 in 6th 11.9secs

each gear up get gradually worse and look at 6th gear?

Also there is a write up FPV V HSV....

I dont understand??

F6 still hasnt pulled of a 1/4 as quick at the auto XR6T has?? and sum how the FG GT was 1 sec slower around winton in thi edition to last one? I can understand a couple hundreths but 1 secs?

mmm I didnt have much faith in mag times anyway but this 1 has just made me think there full opf sh*t....

[Penko]

Yeah just got the mag today, I was just as shocked as you were, and yeah the gravel would have minimal effect in the 80-120 test.

Maybe the XR6t that was going around last issue had a few extra goodies under the bonnet (not saying it did, dont shoot me down), or there was defintly something wrong with this one.

[xr6 typhoon]

no one will know true times until a couple of blokes take their bog stock FG T's to the track and run them. The magazine drivers dont stall it up and jaust feed the throttle on

[xr6_2001]

A mate of mine who works at a ford dealer here in Adelaide, G-Teched their demo model XR6T manual and did a 13.6 using launch control, outside temp was reading 13degress, did the run back the opposte way and ran 13.4 shifting 6100rpm trap speed was 171km/h

[FG-XR6T]

penko I asked my self the same thing.... did they tune there press cars to get better times in the first reviews? I spoke to some one in the know, they recon tuning is not the case. They said it would either be they were optimistic on there first runs ( maybe a lil dodgy, cut a few 10ths off) or the demo cars motor was run in and this one wasnt. He did say though in ford testing low 5 were achievable in both manual and auto.... They think 6 seconds was a bad run by any means and said its is quicker than that.

[Venom XR6]

You say it was a manual, manuals are slower than autos, nuff said.

Who does performance tests on a gravely runway

[xr6_2001]

I agree the Autos are faster down the strip,but if we're talking on the street where most drags are from the lights, and only last about 100m - 200m, the manual will always win,and I don't know about you but I buy a production car to drive on the street! and hence ordering a FG XR6T manual.

[bcl]

I agree the Autos are faster down the strip,but if we're talking on the street where most drags are from the lights, and only last about 100m - 200m, the manual will always win,and I don't know about you but I buy a production car to drive on the street! and hence ordering a FG XR6T manual.

I'd suggest that you test drive both, then report back to us what you have found.

I remember test driving both manual and auto back in 2003, before deciding on the manual.

Maybe the launch control now makes a big difference to launching the manual; also the new FG TR6060 box has the 2.97 1st gear ratio (instead of 2.66), so it will be easier to get off the line, keeping the same 3.73 diff.

Note that Ford chose a version of the T56 with 2.66 first, part of the reason why it dropped back to a 2.73 diff from the 3.45 as used in the BA.

The T56 previously used had ratios more geared towards performance.

The Tremec TR6060 uses the same ratios as the 1st Mal Wood box that I used, and have previously stated that I preferred those ratios, although that was with the old diff 3.45 diff.

As a side note I notice that FPV have not published what ratios are being used for 5th and 6th. My opinion is that the 0.62 6th as used in the T56 is way too low for cruising, and why the ZF auto is miles ahead when it comes to cruiusing fuel economy. A 0.56 6th gear ratio would work much better in the manual, to bring the manual more into line with the ZF when cruising economy is being considered.

Brian

[xr6_2001]

I Drove a XR6T in Dash Colour in Manual heres my little wrap,

Well First impression was the same with amount of space in the cabin,

I really felt I was in $80-$90k car (maybe cause I drive a AU XR6) but overall

the car is nice inside and out and ride is supersmooth for a sports sedan.

Performance, Well jeepers creepers this thing goes hard, in the back street the sales rep said give the launch control a go and said rap it through first and second, ok so I did, little wierd first up but gotta make sure the DSC is on or it won't work and then push the clutch in and then hold the right foot down to the floor and it sits on 3500rpm....let the clutch go and the nose lifts up like it's trying to take off, revved it right around snap into second and it didn't quit, just kept pulling hard, fastest stock car I have driven.

I haven't driven a Auto, but I just feel the manual will kill the auto off the mark, and sure the manual drops boost between gears, but I found in my test drive the power comes on so early that you don't notice it.

There is only one XR6T in Adelaide as a demo, I was at the right spot at the right time, drove it on the 17th of May and ordered one on the 19th of May

Edited 08/06/08 04:09 AM by xr6_2001

[Penko]

I Drove a XR6T in Dash Colour in Manual heres my little wrap,

Well First impression was the same with amount of space in the cabin,

I really felt I was in $80-$90k car (maybe cause I drive a AU XR6) but overall

the car is nice inside and out and ride is supersmooth for a sports sedan.

Performance, Well jeepers creepers this thing goes hard, in the back street the sales rep said give the launch control a go and said rap it through first and second, ok so I did, little wierd first up but gotta make sure the DSC is on or it won't work and then push the clutch in and then hold the right foot down to the floor and it sits on 3500rpm....let the clutch go and the nose lifts up like it's trying to take off, revved it right around snap into second and it didn't quit, just kept pulling hard, fastest stock car I have driven.

I haven't driven a Auto, but I just feel the manual will kill the auto off the mark, and sure the manual drops boost between gears, but I found in my test drive the power comes on so early that you don't notice it.

There is only one XR6T in Adelaide as a demo, I was at the right spot at the right time, drove it on the 17th of May and ordered one on the 19th of May

Mate sounds awsome, cant wait to drive one.

So with the launch control it wont hold the revs at 3500rpm if the DSC is off?