One Of The Last Bf Mkii Turbos

[John K]

I wouldnt be surprised if the Police tickle with the ECU... How do you explain turning the dynos with a little extra power (the ex coppers)..

From not sparing the whip when brand new?

Many car salesmen I've spoken to agree that demonstrators (that generally cop a bit of wellie early on) often end up performing better than babied one driver cars?

[Rudiger]

I'll tell you now guys, and not wishing to digress into an ex police car forum, but I drove highway cars in Victoria from 1984 till 1990. The first I drove was the XE Falcons with the Cleveland 5.8. The last I drove as a highway copper were the VL Turbos. MOST of them had less that 180KW (which is obviously less than the current NA XR6 motors.

Now, lets dispel any rumours. NO CAR IN THE WORLD will go faster than a police car. WHY? Cause when I drove them THEY WERENT MINE and I didn't give a rats if I saw valves coming through the bonnett. I remember driving a VK Late model camira one shift and I went through a tank of juice in 175 ks. YES we thrashed them. Whether they were stock or not, it didn't matter.

Now the VH/VK commodores you didnt know if youd get 160 or 210 kmh out of them. The VLs would ALWAYS give you 200 plus.

The XE was a MONSTER and I can't remember the fastest I ever went in one but it was around 220 and at that speed they stuck to the road very well.

I did drive one of the first Chevy powered Commodores that the police got. It was a beast and didnt valve bounce which was so refreshing. I took it for a punt up the Tulla Fwy and it got to 170 nicely but I ran out of road due to traffic so wound it back. I then got straight into a WRX and despite it being a pain in the ass for room (what with firearm, handcuffs and crap in my belt) it went quite well, but instead of gears I was looking for the "beat, Mix" settings as it was a bloody mixmaster.

Now heres the deal.

Up until 2002, 2003, Vicpol would buy "fleet pack" that had no radio and it was only 1982 we got air. But around 2002, Ross McGrice, the public servant in charge of Transport Branch was told, "Make it Profitable" So he started to buy actual SS commodores that had a better resale. Geez they even experimented with an Anti Terrorism BMW with bullet proof glass ect. It weighed over 2 tonnes. But he couldnt justify it so knocked it back.

There were some guys who had mates who would get cars "tricked". sh*t, with the VN and VK commodores I used to love turning the air filter cover over. It made no diff to speed but it sounded great!!!. I know one guy got charged internally because he had his Late model camira lowered. He was a goose but it showed that it was done.

There are stories here and there about police cars being souped up but the truth is, they go well cause they are thrashed, they usually don't get to cool down, and they are serviced , well in my day, every 5000 kms.

Now since I have left, police drive around in XR8s, XRT, full SS commodors, Explorers. They are all owned by the Commonwealth Bank "well they were" and are usually retired around 40,000k to keep resale.

The amazing thing is that my NA XR6 has more power than the V8s I used to thrash. Scarey thought that a P Plater can drive one but that's another issue.

So whether they trick up the cars or not is really neither here nor there but beleive me when I answer the question "What is the fatest car in the world??? "SOMEONE ELSES CAR"???

Anyway, I am so glad you guys/girls keep this discussion going. It shows that the site is alive and well.

Cheers.

[Inducted_Breeze]

nice work, another Breeze on the road

p.s did you get your online name from that simpsons episode where bart says his name is 'Rudiger'?

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[Rudiger]

Firstly I assume your a Breeze owner? If so, yep great colour.

Second, its great to hear that someone knows their Simpsons. Your SPOT on Bro.

Cheers.

[tab]

Now, lets dispel any rumours. NO CAR IN THE WORLD will go faster than a police car.

Nope you're wrong there....hire cars go just as well if not better!

[Rudiger]

I'll pay thet.

But the insurance is a b*tch

[VIBErator]

Nope you're wrong there....hire cars go just as well if not better!

Not up here they don't. 90% of them are Hyundai Getz's that must have a variable speed limiter than keeps them 20kmh below the speed limit. Also the rental car agent must advise them to stay in the right lane or they'll spontaneously combust.

Oh, and for relatively new cars, a lot of them seem to have faulty indicators

[RIPGMH]

Wellcome to this site RUDIGER, enjoyed your cop car history and personal expiriences.tell me something,my daughter has decided to bang a "cops are tops" sticker on the boot ,just above the turbo badge,do police officers go abit easyer on such equiped cars ? lol

[proddy68]

From not sparing the whip when brand new?

Many car salesmen I've spoken to agree that demonstrators (that generally cop a bit of wellie early on) often end up performing better than babied one driver cars?

Having raced motorcycles for the last five years I know many racers who subscribe to this theory. Most of the bikes are either run in on the dyno or basicaly taken to the race track on a practice day with the revs kept lower (not up to the limiter) for a few sessions then oil change and never look back. All of the bikes treated this way seem to make more power out of the box then ones babied for the first 1000kms which seem to loosen up but not until later in the life of the motor.

Of course we only keep them for 2 years until the next model comes out which is probably 5000kms so its not like we're worried about long term reliability of the motor.

[RHR]

Car sounds good.. Now the wait for the pics