Felix Large Member Member 564 Member For: 18y 2m 8d Location: Brisvegas Posted 07/05/08 07:09 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 07:09 AM The three big tuners I spoke to in Qld all said the 968's were the way to go, and all quoted the exact same reasons why and why not the Dekas.I went 968's and havent had any problems.Felix Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENVY-T CNUTOX Donating Members 3,098 Member For: 22y 3m 8d Gender: Male Location: Not sure? Posted 07/05/08 07:10 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 07:10 AM I have had these injectors for the past 6 months, and have no complaints about the driveability of my car at any speeds.Hang on a sec, I will go and get my cordless and drill out my stockies! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
straughsberry Donating Members 1,846 Member For: 17y 7m 27d Gender: Male Location: Broady, Melbourne Posted 07/05/08 07:12 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 07:12 AM (edited) cobrav8 said: Bugger - there might be about 20 sets of Dekas available second hand then. I dont like your chances of someone trading the Dekas for their 968s after this talk up!Oh well... I have my Dekas, will give them a try I guess. How much are 968s normally?There are heaps of people running these and heaps of tuners tuning them and selling them with marvellous results. I suspect the differences Paul is talking about are not as bad as they may sound. I'd still love to see hard evidence. Not because I don't believe him, but to quantify those differences. The Dekas are used by many people here and on hundreds of thousands of cars in the States. There is nothing wrong with the Dekas so don't panic fellas! Edited 07/05/08 07:14 AM by straughsberry Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDXR8Sprint Member 105 Member For: 17y 6m 18d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 07/05/08 07:42 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 07:42 AM So am I understanding this right, whats being said is that 968s are better up until they max out, then a set of drilled injectors is the preference over the Dekas? I understand the reasoning behind not using a massive injector if you don't have too.Seems a bit strange to me that drilled injectors would be preferred for the high HP cars though... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EGOXRT Guests Posted 07/05/08 07:51 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 07:51 AM What is the real issue here, flow accuracy or hard to scale. I would like to hear the opinion of tuners outside the "Nizpro Alliance".Hundreds of Dekas have been sold through here and other forums, with not one complaint seen yet.A well oiled scare tactic at hand, I think. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 21y 11m 19d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 07/05/08 08:00 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 08:00 AM Oh for farks sake...Everyone's an expert!Paul has made a qualified opinion and you're all knocking him but WTF would you guys know?I know I'm certainly not qualified to write off his comments.An owner/drivers point of view will be very different from a tuners point of view.Remember that some of these guys spend a lot of time getting the tiniest detail of tune correct and I'd guess that this is where the differences show up.I tell you what...If it's ok to take to a wastegate with a die grinder, modify a cat converter with a chisel, put a friggin' chair leg cap on your BOV, get some clown to tune your car without a dyno then I'd be happy to use precision drilled injectors aswell. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
straughsberry Donating Members 1,846 Member For: 17y 7m 27d Gender: Male Location: Broady, Melbourne Posted 07/05/08 08:26 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 08:26 AM (edited) When someone is an expert, it's easy for them to have their opinion taken as gospel. The statement being made is a big one.So I would think for an expert to form such an opinion he has seen some stats, figures and results of flow testing that either he has performed, or his shop has performed or in the tune shops of his friends. Please feel free to show us those results. If someone makes a huge statement such as is being made, the it needs to be backed up I reckon.It is being said that the Siemens cause poor fuel economy. My experience says the opposite. I went from 190rwkw to 315 rwkw and I now have 1.5 litres per 100 km better economy in the city, and 1 litre better on highway and that's with much more spirited driving.It is also being said that their flow from injector to injector is inconsistent. Show me results of tests that prove this please? Siemens specifies a flow rate variance of +/- 5%, what are the Bosch 968's rating?Some people may just take what is being said as truth, but others are not as easily swayed.Hey check this result out using Siemens Dekas. Edited 07/05/08 08:38 AM by straughsberry Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetute Donating Members 4,553 Member For: 21y 2m 12d Gender: Male Location: brisbane Posted 07/05/08 09:19 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 09:19 AM I run the dekas... I have a low rwkw figure..... I have FANTASTIC fuel economy. If you have dekas guys... dont panic... they do the job and they do it well. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 21y 11m 19d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 07/05/08 09:28 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 09:28 AM Straughsberry, I hear what you are saying.I just think writing it off as "scare tactics" is very premature! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesFlurane Member 351 Member For: 18y 11m 26d Gender: Male Posted 07/05/08 09:29 AM Share Posted 07/05/08 09:29 AM Adam said: Oh for farks sake...Everyone's an expert!Paul has made a qualified opinion and you're all knocking him but WTF would you guys know?I know I'm certainly not qualified to write off his comments.An owner/drivers point of view will be very different from a tuners point of view.Remember that some of these guys spend a lot of time getting the tiniest detail of tune correct and I'd guess that this is where the differences show up.I tell you what...If it's ok to take to a wastegate with a die grinder, modify a cat converter with a chisel, put a friggin' chair leg cap on your BOV, get some clown to tune your car without a dyno then I'd be happy to use precision drilled injectors aswell.Headsex, they're playing your tune. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/45276-bosch-968s-vs-deka-injectors/page/4/#findComment-672470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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