BALLBREAKER Member 427 Member For: 19y 6m 9d Gender: Male Posted 05/05/08 04:30 AM Author Share Posted 05/05/08 04:30 AM 2 weeksthank you that all I need to say sir, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veczar Gold Platinum Member Member 1,081 Member For: 20y 6m 2d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 05/05/08 05:21 AM Share Posted 05/05/08 05:21 AM (edited) If it is live tuning it will come with software AND a new PCM, because as Simon said, I thought the PCM software was hard coded only allowing change by replacing the software not realtime editing. Edited 05/05/08 05:21 AM by veczar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Member 143 Member For: 20y 5m 13d Location: Darwin Posted 05/05/08 09:37 AM Share Posted 05/05/08 09:37 AM (edited) So what is the deal here, we still can't tune our own cars? I know in general it is best to leave tuning up to tuners but it is frustrating we still don't have something for personal use like the LS1 owners (are they using vcmsuite?). There is a subsection of enthusiasts that are clever enough (and conservative enough) to learn to tune their own cars on the road with a wideband O2 meter and a laptop and tuning software.So CAPA Advantage is for workshops only, Sniper seems to be crippled for home use (is this right? only allowing crude high level changes?) and noone seems to have bought it, and HP Tuner for the XR6 turbo still seems to be vapourware.If the HP Tuner software does eventuate is it likely there will be a personal tuner edition like the LS1 stuff? I.e. full functionality for tuning an individual car but missing stuff like the ability to tune multiple cars, locking etc?I have no tuner available here and would like the ability to make minor adjustments to my tune, make use of injector scaling etc, and maybe even tackle a full tune when I feel I am ready. Edited 05/05/08 09:42 AM by adamw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 8m 4d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 05/05/08 09:43 AM Share Posted 05/05/08 09:43 AM Apparently the dealer software for CAPA is not that expensive if that's the path you want to go down....quite a few have done that so they can tinker themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Member 143 Member For: 20y 5m 13d Location: Darwin Posted 05/05/08 09:49 AM Share Posted 05/05/08 09:49 AM Is this the "$2000" I've heard previously mentioned? That's not too bad if its for real... but it contradicts what a local mechanic here said "... we looked down the CAPA route but the software is ludicrously expensive so we'll wait for the HP Tuner software ..."Does the CAPA solution also require anything further than a Flash tuner purchased like perhaps a serial to USB interface or similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 8m 4d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 05/05/08 10:03 AM Share Posted 05/05/08 10:03 AM Not 100% sure mate....hopefully someone more knowledgeable will be along shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 17y 10m 21d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 05/05/08 10:55 AM Share Posted 05/05/08 10:55 AM I called CAPA a litle while ago for a friend of mine that does haltech, Apexi etc etc tuning and the bloke at CAPA told me it was about $3000 for everything you need to tune the flash boxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taleme Member 3 Member For: 17y 3m 9d Gender: Male Posted 06/05/08 07:41 AM Share Posted 06/05/08 07:41 AM Last time I looked in to the matter, I was speaking to a workshop in sydney forgot the name, they said that there waiting for the HP tuner software to be released for the Ford B series. The way the software works is it replaces the existing software in the ECU with its own HP, apparently it can be pretty customisable. The reason why that specific workshop was waiting for that software is because, they reckon theres not enough money in using the flash tuner, a true custom tune can take a fair few hours and they don't reckon its worth it, where as the HP stuff is way easier to custom tune, this doesnt' mean it has more potential then the flash tuner, though it means more beginners will be able to do a better job, if you ask me and you want a true tune, NIZPRO and CV performance do a pretty good job.Even though the 2 k tune from nizpro is a fair bit expensive, its compensated by them really tuning it, I know simon can anyway.I'd stick with the flash tuner at an expirienced place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizpro Member 89 Member For: 19y 1m 22d Gender: Male Posted 06/05/08 10:44 PM Share Posted 06/05/08 10:44 PM Last time I looked in to the matter, I was speaking to a workshop in sydney forgot the name, they said that there waiting for the HP tuner software to be released for the Ford B series. The way the software works is it replaces the existing software in the ECU with its own HP, apparently it can be pretty customisable. The reason why that specific workshop was waiting for that software is because, they reckon theres not enough money in using the flash tuner, a true custom tune can take a fair few hours and they don't reckon its worth it, where as the HP stuff is way easier to custom tune, this doesnt' mean it has more potential then the flash tuner, though it means more beginners will be able to do a better job, if you ask me and you want a true tune, NIZPRO and CV performance do a pretty good job.Even though the 2 k tune from nizpro is a fair bit expensive, its compensated by them really tuning it, I know simon can anyway.I'd stick with the flash tuner at an expirienced place. Thanks for the vote of confidence our tunes are $1650 at presant including the flash box This is for a three tune package.Cheers Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRIBR Yaris member Member 4,486 Member For: 18y 6m 7d Gender: Male Posted 06/05/08 11:40 PM Share Posted 06/05/08 11:40 PM a true custom tune can take a fair few hours and they don't reckon its worth itSign me up for that tuner!I'll take 100x generic tune boxes from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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