What Is Your Prefered Method Of Legal Racing?

[Inducted_Breeze]

mods are all relative, it depends on how far you want to go - you can compete in both types of racing with a stock car, but I would say that stock suspension is more suited to drag than it is to circuit

Exactly

I suppose on another level, people see the circuit as something that if you are going to do it, then you should do it properly, whereas you can bring down a half-baked car with very little preparation needed and start racing on a 1/4 mile very simply.

It's probably a misconception but most of us just want to get out there and race with minimal effort (yep we all have a lazy side haha)

Edited 22/04/08 07:01 AM by ThundaBird

[mercuryturbo]

Yeh, its hard to go past rocking up at the drags on a Wednesday night, paying your $50 & then going hell for leather down the strip all night.

Circuit racing is appealing but I think the costs involved are a touch high for the average guy or girl especially when your trying to set up a 2 tonne taxi like a T for the twisties.

[Erko]

Circuit racing is appealing but I think the costs involved are a touch high for the average guy or girl especially when your trying to set up a 2 tonne taxi like a T for the twisties.

This is the truth.

depends on how far you want to go, but to get to what I call a good daily driver/circuit set up I will be spending $15K.

I dont doubt that you need to be committed to it. However.......something that the drag guys will understand, once you catch the

motorsport disease the only cure is an empty wallet

[mercuryturbo]

Yep I think were all suckers for expensive hobbies on this site.

[jsmith]

Just a few answers wanted.

1 what is the average entry fee?

2 what is an annual ANDRA license worth?

3 what is a set of MT drag slicks worth?

4 Seriously, how much actual RACING time do you get per meet?

For cicuit racing these are the answers I have come up with so far

1 $150-200 (depends on the organizing club)

2 My current cams license cost $90 from memory

3 Racing slicks for my sports sedan are $325 each (can get cheaper but why would I). These will last me about six (possibly more) 'meets' the way I am using the car at the moment

4 At the last track day I did, I had about 1 hour in total on track. My father in the same car was out there for about 45mins in total. That was $165 for his entry, $65 for mine as a secondary driver and 1h45mins worth of driving.

[mercuryturbo]

Just a few answers wanted.

1 what is the average entry fee?

2 what is an annual ANDRA license worth?

3 what is a set of MT drag slicks worth?

4 Seriously, how much actual RACING time do you get per meet?

1 Last time I went it was about $45-$50

2 Most street cars dont need one

3 Not sure, have ever only used street tyres

4 Depends on how fast your car is . But seriously it all depends on how busy it is on the night.

[Turboboy]

Have never tried the Drags!

I've got the auto 6 speed BF MkII.

I go to Eastern Creek and do the circuit.

In fact off there on 30th April for the next open dat Track Day, can't wait.

Yer, I agree, would think the drags would be a buzz, but DRIFT'N would be a major hoot!.

You get a small taste of it at the skid pan days, hang'n the arse out and power sliding.

mmmmmm

then onto youtube and watch those nissans really swing 'n ' sing......gotta try it!

been thinking of buying a grey import nissan and have it as the trackc ar rather than brutalise the "T" my daily drive, but I just love driving her, why would I drive another????

Think about it, why did you buy her in the first place???

There are pretty cars, there are more powerfull cars, but for the $$$ and she gives to you whatever you want without one complaint! She is the sweetest, most gorgeous thing, with grunt off the start, all the way through!

Hows that Queen song go again??...."I'm in love with car, told my girlfriend I'd have to forget her, rather buy me a new carburettor (for you young kids, that was what mixed the fuel/air on old cars!), so she made tracks saying this was the end know, cars don't talk back, they're just four wheeled friend know!..."

Give mee speed and thrills and I love it!

get an old bomb and bush bash it!...sorry all you greenies!

[turbotrana]

circuit racing is good fun but its easy to spend 1k on tyres, brakes and fuel for a few hours. Its gets pretty expensive.

Drag racing is alot easier on the car in some respects and cheaper in tyres and fuel but gets boring if you are not actively trying to get the car down quicker either thru car mods or better driving

[DJL351]

and my responses in italics underneath each point(lol this is getting confusing!)

Good discussion anyway I like both but for your average Joe the 1/4 is more appealing for it's simplicity, lower costs and street similarities.

T

my main reference here was entry fees etc however if you want to get specific; I think you need to carry out more mods to get a car fast on a track than you do to get a car fast on a 1/4 mile

Really? I would have thought not. Your car was driven rather 'quickly' at our last track day.... it even went quicker than another more modified car.

And as to cost for racing, look at the average track time v's cost for both events.

I've been to a Fast Friday where I got 5 runs in total. Yet spent hours on the track at barbs

now you're just getting picky More components are put under higher levels of stress on the circuit than the 1/4. Sure all components are still in use on both situations but the track provides the greater wear and tear to a broader range of car components

Again, really? Would you not think the take off at the drags would casue a fair amount of stress on the vehicle?

Or the burnout. (if you do one, which 95% do)

Apart from the heat, your car handled the track as well as the rest, the brakes get warm, but after correct cooling, they returned to normal.

I know that I am harder on the car at the drags, trying to launch it and get through the gears etc.

Question for you all - Why is it Ford/FPV allow their owners to do 'driver training' days without fear of warranty issues; Yet mention drag racing... and try and make a claim.

granted on the point of braking but there are stricter requirements to getting onto a circuit than onto the 1/4

Like what? Both check brakes, seatbelts, oil & water, tyres, helmet.... I think you'll find they are very close when it comes to the minimum requirements.

95% of people are a fair way off from needing ANDRA to race, if not more. 100% of people need CAMS

Yeah, you've got me there

granted but the regularity and potential for risk is lowered when you take away many of the variables that contribute to a crash; I.e. turning

But you are much closer to those lovely walls. Toxic Gazz went off the track at the track day, slight scratch on the rim, dust/sand in the car but it drove fine.

If he had of lost it the same way at the drags..... <yuk>

while my main reference was stock for stock, since upgrades have been brought into the picture I somewhat agree. However most battles of manufacturers are won in the aftermarket, and my friends aren't going to begrudge a loss to me just because I am modified. Indeed it will garnish respect. This adds another level of competitiveness in the 1/4 scene

I don't disagree with this, however 'competitiveness' can often lead to jealousy... Which leads to all sorts of issues.

If it stays friendly, then all is good. (Hang around the OZ EFI lane at a Fast Friday and see the 'antics' between some of the H**den and Ford drviers)

lol what does 'meh' mean. It may not be important to you, but there is a whole culture out there that wants to get street racing out of their system so they come down to the 1/4

Meh means... meh.

You said the magic word too.... "street racing". As you know, I've done both and like both for different reasons.

When talking to non-car 'buffs' mentioning that I've been track racing is met with a 'oh, okay' type response; Just any mention of Drag Racing and they assume that I am some street racing hoon doing illegal sh*t at night.

Hell, I enjoy both.... but then I am a hoon from way back.

TB, you should know me well enough, I'm not having a go, or trying to stir trouble, just trying to add a little balance to the answers.

[Dillz]

Nothing beats screaming along dirt roads at 200+ with tree/building/people either side. WRC Kicks Arse

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