Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 20y 9m 6d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 29/05/08 10:31 AM Share Posted 29/05/08 10:31 AM Wheels MOTOR tests will be more credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawsy Wanabe mechanical engineer Donating Members 960 Member For: 20y 3m 10d Gender: Male Location: At the computer, obviously..... Posted 29/05/08 10:45 PM Share Posted 29/05/08 10:45 PM Wheels F6 was an auto and did have half a tank of fuel and 2 ppl in the car. 0 - 100 in 5.2secs and 1.4 mile in 13.3 isnt any faster nor slower than a xr6turbo in auto but look at the speed at the end of the 1/4 mile. 174 in xr6turbo and 178 in f6. Also look at roll on acceleration. XR6T 3 secs from 80-120. F6 2.7secs 80-120. The F6 is quicker and looking at the terminal speed at the end of a 1/4 mile I recon a better launch in the F6 will definatly knock of anothe .1secs.1 person in a car and only a little bit of fuel in car will save atleast 120kgs. easily sub 5 sec too 100kmp. high 12 quater mile.It should still be faster than that though. A terminal speed of 180-182 would have made me believe it actually has 310kw's. I just hope they absolutely suck, more than they ever have, at running the 400m, and that this complete lack of motoring ability is the reason for such a slow time. Because this car should be doing 13 flat, all day, every day. 13.3 should be with 3 people in the car. Fat people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 3m 23d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 30/05/08 03:12 AM Share Posted 30/05/08 03:12 AM In the same mag, they had the G6E, doing the same 1/4, but better 0-100. What a load of BS.Also, the GT has to be faster than they say. The dyno graph shows their usual BS about the HSV motor having a better power range to be just that, yet they can't get the GT under 14?????????Don't bet on Motor doing better times, so far their XR6 times have been slower than Wheels.The only way we'll really know what these cars can do is to wait until some members get out and crack their own, REAL WORLD times. Until then, I'll regard all magazine performance times with the utter contempt they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 17y 10m 19d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 30/05/08 03:34 AM Share Posted 30/05/08 03:34 AM The latest Motor has them cracking a 14 flat, but it always takes them a little while to get the best out of the cars, in the same mag they say the SS sedan gets 13.9 quarter mile, when previoulsy they have done 13.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inducted_Breeze Member 247 Member For: 17y 4m 14d Location: Perth, WA Posted 30/05/08 06:05 AM Share Posted 30/05/08 06:05 AM so the latest Motor Mag is out? Do they test all of FPV and compare them to HSV models etc?might pick it up on the way home if so...T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchtj Member 24 Member For: 17y 5m 7d Posted 06/06/08 04:03 AM Share Posted 06/06/08 04:03 AM Isn't that the GT running in the 14's?SS's have done 13.3 under Motor testing before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawsy Wanabe mechanical engineer Donating Members 960 Member For: 20y 3m 10d Gender: Male Location: At the computer, obviously..... Posted 06/06/08 04:39 AM Share Posted 06/06/08 04:39 AM Yes, and that time has never again been repeated. Infact, have any standard SS Commodores managed a 13.3 down the strip (I'm not sure, which is why I'm asking)?.I don't know why Motor quote the 13.3 run in the car stats. Anyone (ie, only the most ignorant of Late model camira drivers) who still wont admit that the car in question was warmed up needs a sledgehammer sized reality check.I can't remember the exact quote but they said a few times that no other SS/SS-v, or even the previous model R8, felt as strong as that press car. Ie, to slash 0.5 seconds off a quarter mile time at the MPH that this press SS car achieved, assuming it has a similar torque curve profile, would require nearly dead on 300kw.On another topic:Does anyone have any theory's on what the deal is with the GT making more Grunt than the HSV, but being so slow on the road?The in gear acceleration should tell the full story, but it doesn't. For having that much more grunt, it should EASILY be faster from 80-120 in any gear, especially 5th and 6th, since wind resistance is no longer negligible at these speeds, and would offset the power to weight difference (in fact, it would easily do so).Yet the GT doesn't perform. What the hell? It simply does not make sense to me, assuming Wheels aren't completely useless and the dyno results are accurate enough (for comparisons sake there should be absolutely no reason for discrepancy).I'm fairly stumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FG-XR6T Member 177 Member For: 16y 8m 25d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 06/06/08 01:21 PM Share Posted 06/06/08 01:21 PM Hey mate, I am as stumped as you are.....Factors Though.. FG GT is a heavier car.... gear ratios probably played a big part in it to. I was lookin at the dyno and the GT only has a kW advantage top end which from 80 - 120 in 3rd, 4th , 5th and 6th would never be reached at 120. I mean 3rd revs right out to 165 so it still has heaps arfter 120...I agree with what yur sayin though and to me I think times in these magazines are bullsh*t....Look at this:New MOTOR MAG said A clubby R8 did 80-120 in 3 flat in 3rd. Last wheel mag I got said a GTS did it in 3.6 in 3rd? and then theres this bullsh*t. Last wheels mag with dyno readings : 80 - 120 in GT 3.9,6.0,10.1,15.3. Thant 3rd 4th 5th and 6th. The new Motor mag 3.6 4.9 7.5 10.7. Look at the difference? how can there be 5 seconds in 6th gear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil F6 Donating Members 830 Member For: 18y 11m 18d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 06/06/08 01:59 PM Share Posted 06/06/08 01:59 PM Thinking about it, it is probably a bit unrealistic to expect. It does need to be substantiated because it could be just a Ford fan stirring up the LS1 boys.Why? A G6ET is good for 5.1 and I'm sure a manual version would do a 5.0 even. I said an F6 would do at least 4.8, so 4.7 sounds plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 20y 9m 6d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 06/06/08 04:01 PM Share Posted 06/06/08 04:01 PM MOTOR recorded 0-100 in just 5.1. How can the F6 be no quicker than the T?We need someone to run one out at Calder one night to see how they really go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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