The Off Topic Thread.

[Corzza]

Ended up being the whole $1900 Shy I put down. Will be ringing gamblers help later, so if don't here from me today I'm in rehab.

god damn!

[Pazzo]

Nah all good mate SDP, just checked account, went from TAB sportsbet and moved over to Tom Waterhouse. Still got a few $$$ to spend. If people have accounts with places, seriously look at Waterhouse, offers good odds . Looked at Eskander but went Waterhouse instead. Might have to throw a few $ on Cadel Evans for the Tour de France. Plus EPL starts in a month so always bet on that, did alright on that last season and picked Man City to win the league at the start which paid well for me.

[Never had any say Panda]

Haha it's alright pazz.. I started a sportingbet account ages ago.. Put in 300 to start. It's been as high as 1200 and as low as about 150.. Never withdraw from it.. Just have fun..

[Pazzo]

Go Waterhouse as gives slightly better odds, plus he will offer Odds on pretty much anything you name within reason.

[Buf-Phoon]

How did this one get past the moderators ?

http://www.dailytele...0-1226413121836

Source Daily Telegraph Sydney

[Never had any say Panda]

Can't see the comment buff.

[Paulie2256]

4-0

wow

[Buf-Phoon]

Can't see the comment buff.

LAST week, the Gillard government continued its lethal attack on border security, today its crippling assault on the economic life of the nation takes effect.

In the near future Australians can expect an unprecedented onslaught on their intellectual freedom through an offensive against the free press.

Julia Gillard is not solely responsible for this grotesque destruction of the integrity of the nation's security, economy and intellectual liberty - the Greens and Independents who keep her party and themselves in office must share the blame.

The people smugglers must have been cheering as loudly as Labor, the Greens, the Independents and the media luvvies in August 2007 when then prime minister Kevin Rudd rolled back the successful Howard government policy which had effectively stopped the boats.

There were then just four people held in immigration detention.

Since November 2007, there have been more than 20,000 so-called asylum seekers arriving on more than 330 boats.

Since Gillard's independent-Green minority government was clumsily contrived in a welter of deals, pork-barrelling, promises and pledges, now largely broken, nearly 13,000 have arrived on more than 200 boats.

In the past financial year alone, 106 boats brought 7829 people to Christmas Island and left hundreds of dead in their wake.

Is this what those who celebrated Labor's weakening of the Howard government's border protection regime really wanted?

Probably not, but they were giddy in the aftermath of the 2007 election, drunk with exhilaration at the defeat of the second-longest serving conservative government in the nation's history and above all, the defeat of John Howard, who they reviled with the encouragement of the overwhelming majority of the so-pliant Canberra press corps and the enthusiastic barracking of the taxpayer-funded ABC and those sheltered from the realities of the real world in the Fairfax stable.

Despite the inevitable loss of life that followed Labor's open border policy, Labor and much of the media learnt nothing. Though the High Court ruled Gillard's Malaysian Solution was effectively inhumane, Gillard and her increasingly disenchanted backbenchers are still flogging the Malaysian option, though it falls outside the purview of the United Nations, to which in all other respects the Gillard government and the Greens are slavishly devoted.

Instead of certainty, instead of decisiveness, Gillard - again - has resorted to the worst possible option: A committee of review, whose view, if it finds for Malaysia, will again be rejected by the Greens in the Senate.

So much for Gillard's much-lauded reputation as the negotiator. She holds office by favour of the Greens who have taken her and the taxpayers for more than $10 billion but will not pass legislation which could help her now.

While the Labor-independent-Green minority government established the pull factors which have led to the surge in boat arrivals with the consequent inevitable deaths, it also has full responsibility for the carbon dioxide tax that is just as inevitably leading to job losses and destruction of whole communities.

No other nation has so wilfully embarked on such a planned program of self-destruction this century.

The whole notion of the carbon dioxide tax is flawed.

Despite the bleating of the government's shills, there is no scientific certainty about the causes of climate change.

The Earth has been much warmer with less carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, warmer with more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

There is no concrete evidence that carbon dioxide is even a major climate determinant.

The constant claims of settled science have not led to any reassurance in science, they have led to an unprecedented distrust in scientific institutions, spurred largely by the disgraceful practices engaged in by contributors to the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Computer modelling of the type relied on by such alarmists as Professor Tim Flannery, Australia's own climate commissioner, have been found time and again to be flawed beyond belief.

Just last week, a new report revealed that 20-year-old models which have suggested serious ice loss in the eastern Antarctic have been compared with reality for the first time _ and found to be wrong.

It now appears that no ice is being lost at all.

According to Tore Hattermann of the Norwegian Polar Institute: "Previous ocean models ... have predicted temperatures and melt rates that are too high, suggesting a significant mass loss in this region that is actually not taking place."

The American Geophysical Union says the past studies were based on computer models without any direct data for comparison or guidance and overestimated the water temperatures and extent of melting beneath the Fimbul Ice Shelf.

The team's results show that water temperatures are far lower than computer models predicted ... another fine theory exploded.

But despite the hard evidence, Australians are doomed to suffer an entirely man-made crisis, brought upon them unnecessarily by a damned government predestined to lose at the next election.

But not before it lashes out at the media in a wild attempt to stifle the rising clamour of criticism coming from a lately enlightened media pack which smells the scent of blood.

Perceiving media-bashing to be popular, Labor is determined in its dying days to inflict a new politically correct regime which would reduce press freedom to 17th century levels.

It is out to punish its critics as much by process as by penalty, but among the recommendations it is entertaining is the jailing of those its handpicked adjudicators deem to have crossed the line.

Who needs the Four Horsemen when a single inept and immoral government can deliver such a trifecta of disgrace, destruction and dishonour to an undeserving nation?

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[Shyfrd]

Lol you need help pazz! Hahah. Nah what'd you start off with on the euro12 for bets?

I had a sportsbet account and all the free bets/good returns is decent. Like in horses sometimes they'll say if your horse is protested they'll pay out both winner and 2nd place. And even in NRL, they paid out all people who bet parramatta (I think it was them) to get wooden spoon. When they advertised that they also said, have we made the right decision or will someone else get it? Was going alright for a few months then withdrew..took months to verify my card to withdraw so I got pissed at them lol

Eskanda always on nova around spring racing time. But have seen waterhouse on TV with odds..seems alright. Will tell the boss to get on board, he loves a punt on the trots. With tabsportsbet atm

[PookeyMaster]

Do any of you guys actually come out in front in the medium to long term (don't bet much, lol).

Do the Falcon's come with lock nuts for the Wheel Nuts?