Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,972 Member For: 9y 10m 21d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 18/12/17 12:34 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 12:34 AM 13 minutes ago, Rab said: Cash goes into the wallet and makes no difference in the long run Pretty much. Considering I'd have to do a 60 km round trip to even spend it on something it would just go in the wallet with the $12 I won on lottery last time. 7 minutes ago, k31th said: when you buy presents for adults without their input, you are buying something consumable or something they don't actually want This is how I feel about it mostly. Almost every t shirt I've been given is not something I'd buy or wear in public and as such ends up being a gym t shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab WOT? Moderating Team 10,981 Member For: 11y 9m 25d Gender: Male Location: Frankston, 3199 Posted 18/12/17 01:14 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 01:14 AM 11 minutes ago, k31th said: considering presents as an adult is ridiculous, Not really the old man gets an xmas ham and single malt scotch that he wouldn't have gotten himself or off his own bat the old girl gets a full day at the Peninsula Hot Springs with brekkie/lunch with either dad or my sister that she wouldn't have done otherwise Those aren't things they'd be comfortable receiving normally On xmas day they're wrapped and that gives both them and me pleasure 15 minutes ago, k31th said: adults understand the value of the present you buy for somebody versus the present you get from them and it's almost impossible to consider it only based on the actual thought Not really I may get socks and jocks this year - or a doonah/sheet set - or a bottle of hot sauce - or a voucher for a night out - or a set of tyres for my car Not for one second do I do any sort of calculations of monetary value - the thought process in choosing the gift (if any) speaks more than the value of it 18 minutes ago, k31th said: card/voucher systems are just a scam because it just gives the business you bought the card off some money just to give somebody else the "equivalent" of money which is more diffucult to use compared to cash. Card/vouchers are fantastic for teens/young adults - I've found they start to plan what they're going to get with the gift card pretty much as soon as they are given it. For some cash would go on their bills/ciggies/booze/hookers etc - at least the voucher "forces" them to grab an actual item and lets them pick one they want. With a voucher you're able to give them a narrower focus of where to spend it and lets them know you have some understanding of their interests ("Hey - a game for the console mum and dad gave you for xmas", "Hey - I know you want to get a decent ski jacket - go find yourself a decent one", "Hey - I know you've just moved into your own place and are starting the garden - go pick some nice plants/decorations from Bunnings") Also lets them take advantage of boxing day sales - maybe they can find a 2 for 1 deal or decent discount, allowing them to stack the stocking a bit higher or get an item that would have been out of the budget otherwise. Next time you visit - "Hey Rab - come play this game/look at the jacket I chose/have some tomatoes from the veggie patch we made" 38 minutes ago, k31th said: Just call them and talk to them (or even better, go and see them) if they matter to you... for an adult, as far as I can tell, that's the best present. I don't think there's a person that matters that I don't see/talk to regularly enough that I need to make it a special event for xmas lol, or that a visit from me would be considered a present 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,972 Member For: 9y 10m 21d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 18/12/17 01:22 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 01:22 AM If only you put as much thought into getting out of cars as you do into getting pressies for people 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 27d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 18/12/17 01:42 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 01:42 AM Kieth argues with the world v186858288451285128 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,043 Member For: 16y 8m 11d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 18/12/17 02:10 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 02:10 AM just because you're a useless old man when it comes to actually having a productive debate 40 minutes ago, Rab said: old man gets an... old girl gets a... I don't see why they can't buy these for themselves if they actually want such items. But I see your point and won't go into the psychological undertone here. Quote wrapped and that gives both them and me pleasure... This visceral "pleasure" escapes me as an adult... but I do remember it is a child. I wonder if I'm in the minority here... Quote Card/vouchers are fantastic for teens/young adults... For some cash would go on... I don't want to constrain somebody on what they "want" to spend their own money on. Quote some understanding of their interests... This is the only part that I think could possibly justify vouchers. Quote lets them take advantage of boxing day sales... Anything that facilitates a successful transaction allows you to take advantage of sales. Obviously it requires a certain level of vigilance to do so with your own money. Quote Next time you visit - personally, I wouldn't really even want my gift to be a conversation starter because it implies successful causality... except in rare circumstances when a certain gift has a specific meaning or emotional attachment. Quote visit from me would be considered a present This one is probably more related to how my family are, rather than the norm haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,708 Member For: 16y 6m 20d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 18/12/17 02:26 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 02:26 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,972 Member For: 9y 10m 21d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 18/12/17 02:32 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 02:32 AM Comma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,043 Member For: 16y 8m 11d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 18/12/17 02:35 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 02:35 AM word association thread is thataway -> http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38735-word-association-thread/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab WOT? Moderating Team 10,981 Member For: 11y 9m 25d Gender: Male Location: Frankston, 3199 Posted 18/12/17 02:41 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 02:41 AM Yeah/nah Isn't it great that we as adults can make decisions concerning ourselves and those around us that don't have to take into consideration the opinions of other individuals? Maybe we should put it to a national plebiscite - Do gift vouchers offer a legitimate xmas present option? Yes/No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,043 Member For: 16y 8m 11d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 18/12/17 02:44 AM Share Posted 18/12/17 02:44 AM haha, fair dinkum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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